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Intel Announces HTML5 Development Environment

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Went to sign up for a 'developer account'.

My password: udxeik8SovTCW0qhlPMr00dBBWTW6zeAbDQ77PLIOcidhXZsEhg7yP10B4ygqkzU

Rejected with: - Password must contain at least 1 special character - Password must not be longer than 15 character(s)

So... ?Gc76+;%ap``h}( - Invalid Character(s) in Password

Less 'special'? ... %_H$Jo#];:=?RK& - Password must contain at least 1 numeric character

Here you go then: 8-8jvr£B9#UQ4Q/ - Invalid Character(s) in Password

Gah. I know just know if I sign up for this, in a few months there'll be an announcement about how they've had their account details 'stolen' by 'hackers'. Not that they're incompetent or anything.

So I thought I'd test it out a little more. Pretended I'd forgotten my password. Pressed the link and it said 'Password emailed'.

Turns out it's not as bad as that! I wasn't emailed my password. I was emailed a link.

http://appcenter.html5tools-software.intel.com/csd/ForgotPas...

That's fine. So there's this unique token that means only I can reset my password... Except... Let me decode that token...

EYl0htUzhivYzcIo+zrIyEFQUE1PQkk= -> t3+(:APPMOBI

So does this mean I could reset anyone's password, given their email address?

Anyway I went to the page and put a new password in (trying to follow the unstated rules found previously). When I pressed submit, the page darkened and I was told 'Error 500'.

Tried again with a new password and was told 'Password must contain one of the following !@#$% special character[s].[sic]

Well, I was told it for a second, but the message went away really quickly, so I had to keep submitting the password it didn't like until I'd remembered what the characters it required were.

Anyway the password reset link doesn't appear to expire, so if you fancy logging in to Intel AppCenter as me, just reset my password. I can always reset it back if I want to use it.

I just did. For your convenience, your new password is IDisposable#1.

Thanks for that. From now on, I'm keeping my passwords in plain text on public websites and having other people set them for me.

This was the best discussion I've read on hackernews in a long time. So I made a screen shot and put it on my blog :) http://fluffyelephant.com/

I got a different token when I tried it.

pa1Wndjk+Ly3KAYrvpJghEFQUE1PQkk=

It looks like it always ends in APPMOBI, but the first part can be different.

Thanks for pointing this out. We have changed token schema and validation process.

The linked page on the OP talks about the project without having the decency to provide a link to it. Here it is:

http://html5dev-software.intel.com/

What's the current state of jqMobi vs jQueryMobile? jqMobi's team has outlined issues with jQueryMobile[1]. What has changed since then? Does jqMobi have an edge?

[1] http://blog.jqmobi.com/post/15943804783/were-doing-it-wrong

jqMobi and jQuery Mobile are two very different things. Despite "jq" in the name, jqMobi is not jQuery (or jQuery Mobile) compatible. It has a similar syntax and implements a subset of features, but even the APIs with the same names are not always fully compatible.

My main question would be whether there is a long-term commitment to jqMobi by Intel. For something with Intel's name on it, the project pages have an embarrassing number of spelling and grammar errors. [1] I don't see a lot of contributors to the repo [2] and the unit tests haven't been updated in 3 months despite quite a bit of recent activity in the repo.

    [1] http://app-framework-software.intel.com/
    [2] https://github.com/01org/appframework

[Edit: I should say I'm on the jQuery team]

Hi dmethvin,

I'm the one responsible for all your complaints...sadly my dad is an edito, so I always feel bad with the spelling/grammar errors ;). You are correct in not every function works the same way (just as the case with Zepto.js). We've added new functionality and have even seen changes from our implementation make it's way into jQuery 2.0 (how props/attr work but not saying we are responsible)

For everyone else, Intel is committed to the project (that's about all I can say now). Keep a look out and you won't be disappointed!

Ian

Hi Ian, I think you're doing an amazing job, but basically by yourself if the GitHub graphs are any indication [1]. It helps to have a group of people with differing experiences and perspectives when designing an API, and of course more people to do the heavy lifting as well. If docs aren't your thing, then there should be someone to review and write the docs. Since jqMobi has diverged from jQuery, that makes docs even more important because the name implies to people that it works like jQuery.

As far as the attr/prop thing goes, we changed it a couple of years ago in jQuery 1.6 and deprecated the old behavior, but there is still a lot of code out there that does the wrong thing. That's why 1.9 was such a code breaker for a lot of people.

    [1] https://github.com/01org/appframework/contributors

Hi Dave,

Would be nice to have some offline conversations - can you drop me a line? You can get my email from my github pages site.

thanks, Ian

so this is jqMobi [ rebranded + extended ? ]

github : https://github.com/01org/appframework/

"jqMobi is now Intel's App Framework"[1] (also referred to in the same page as "Intel App Framework").

[1] http://app-framework-software.intel.com/

Looking at that DDJ page epitomises an awful web page layout. Garish ads, links, blocks of text all over the place. It's painful and actually makes it difficult to read the article content. It's amazing what people will put up with.

For me, it's enough to know he's still alive and living in Florida. Think of it as the white belt and shoes of the good doctor's retirement years.

Has anyone managed to login and use the xdk/ide?

registered , the link in the email redirected me to a page with a java applet ... did not go further ... Intel , i thought the whole thing was about HTML5 ? , dont send me to a page with a java applet.

It says it needs Java 6 or 7 + Chrome. So the interface is probably in HTML5 (the Chrome requirement), but the hardware emulators are in Java. You get a tab in Chrome directed at localhost:58888/_emulator/_ide/index.html

Coincidentally no new tabs would load in Chrome after I ran that. However, existing tabs were able to load.

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