Massachusetts Bill to Ban Non-Competes backed by Spark Capital
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That said, I'm fully in support. :)
As an employee I 'clock out' when my day is over and are free to pursue whatever I want in my own time. As an owner, I do everything I can to make sure my company survives and thrives around the clock both at work and at home. There's a definite line there that shouldn't be crossed (or you'll get burned)
I don't think my getting a job should hinge on if I agree not to use my knowledge for my own best interest. If a company wants to offer me something that (from my perception) is of better interest to me than competing with them, then I'd possibly sign it.
If it's that important to a company that I don't compete with them, they should be willing to pay me enough that I have an interest not to compete.
If I'm not competent to read a non-compete and agree, or not agree, to it, then why do they think that I'm competent to drive a car, or vote, or sign a lease?
In most situations the employers have more leverage then the employee. The very best hires will not accept sub par offers. But a lot of others, including some very good ones, will.
The result being that private companies influence the labor market for their own benefit and everyone else's detriment. That includes other employers and employees.
Think of non competes for utilities, as in only one cable co. can serve your area. Does that make the private market manipulation more obvious? Private market distortion is no better then public market distortion.
Cartels, non-competes, etc, are legitimate targets for government busting from my libertarian perspective.
Your comparisons are a little silly, too. There are good reasons (right of way, regulation) and bad (monopoly concessions, lobbying, corruption) that private utilities own entire markets. These have nothing to do with the forces behind noncompetes. No noncompete has helped establish any company's monopoly in any product or service you can name, even regionally.
Noncompetes are a trade. Companies provide employees with access to resources, client lists, and trade secrets. They want to ensure that rolodexes aren't shopped and product plans aren't bootlegged. These are reasonable goals. Employment contracts are blunt and inefficient instruments for accomplishing those goals, but that doesn't make the intent corrupt.
Isn't that an NDA?
I see non-competes as nothing but attempts to reduce competition. Except that is exactly how markets are NOT supposed to work. You're supposed to out-compete, not simply reduce competition.
Frankly, and I hope respectfully, if you can't see the distinctions here, I'm not sure why you'd expect anyone to take your opinions about noncompetes seriously. You might also consider wording your ideas better: "noncompetes are nothing but attempts to reduce competition", for instance, might not be your best rhetorical play.
I'm pretty ambivalent about noncompetes. They've hurt me more than they've helped me, both as employee and (in concert with) employers. But I don't like shoddy arguments.
But again maybe I'm looking at this from an engineer's perspective and it's different for sales.
In either case, I don't think we'll change each others minds here on the Internet.
Otherwise, you violate an NDA by disclosing to someone not bound under the same NDA actual confidential information. Nothing prevents you from using confidential information to compete "unfairly" with your employer.
You can add whatever terms you'd like to whatever you call a "confidentiality" or IP agreement, but now you're on a slippery slope that leads to de facto noncompetes.
All a decision like this would mean is: the state of MA has decided it's not in the interests of the state of MA to enforce noncompete clauses, so from here on out it will not enforce them.
You can still sign whatever you want.
I was commenting specifically because I hate sloppy language and sloppy thought: there's just no meaningful sense in which "a particular kind of contract becoming non-enforceable" simplifies into "not being able to sign a particular kind of contract"; the latter implies some kind of intrusive intervention -- a noncompete gestapo slapping pen-from-hand should you try to sign such a contract -- which clearly wouldn't be the case under the proposal.
As another commenter said, sign whatever you like. Some companies make you sign non-competes in California, we just all know they don't mean anything.
Slavery would be a matter of contract law in the present day if it was permitted -- since people would be allowed to sign themselves into slavery in return for whatever they could get out of it.
You're not "allowed" to sign yourself into slavery, even if you want to (because the state won't enforce the contract).
Non-competes will have the same properties above (if this bill is passed), therefore I suggest that slavery is a valid analogy for non-compete agreement in this context.
This opens up the opportunity for further discussion. For example it can be argued that the state is defending your freedoms by refusing to enforce a slavery contract. On the other hand, it can be argued that the state is denying you the freedom to sell yourself into slavery.
It is interesting to consider the case of non-compete agreements in a similar fashion.
(Please don't be rude or I'll be uninterested in discussing with you further, and don't tell me what I get "points" for: I'm not in a competition with you.)
The OP made an argument of this form:
"I dislike the government asserting that I am not a fully competent adult, capable of making my own decisions about what agreements I enter into and which I do not.
If I'm not competent to read a <contract of form X> and agree, or not agree, to it, then why do they think that I'm competent to drive a car, or vote, or sign a lease?"
The reply by toby noted "You can't sell yourself into slavery" by way of pointing out that the argument does not hold when X = selling yourself into slavery.
Thus toby was demonstrating the OP's argument was not valid as it stands for all forms of contract X, and so it needs to be clarified to indicate why it is valid for X = non-compete agreement (for example by reframing the argument from one based on competence to: "I don't believe the state should refuse to enforce contracts merely on economic grounds")
I agree with you that "slavery" was a sloppy argument, but indentured servitude is a better one.
But don't worry, even if this bill passes, you'll still have the option of signing enforceable non-competes in almost every other state in the U.S.
In general I think the state should take a utilitarian perspective in matters like this. If non-competes hurt the economy more than they help it would be self-defeating for the state to enforce them.
I'll leave the rest for politicians and pundits.
Why don't people check their contracts with lawyers? If it's because of a high estimated cost, is that estimation right?
Part of the problem (and therefore part of the solution) is that the choosing of contract terms asymmetrically benefits the employer, since they only have to do the lawyer work once.
Intellectual property and trade secrets are however well protected for the employer.