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Chromium is 5 years old. WebKit is 7 years old. Do they count?

KHTML is a bit older (14 years).

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WebKit was open-sourced in 2005, almost 8 years ago.

But WebKit development started in 2001, about 12 years ago.

Safari, using WebKit, was released in Jan 2003, over 10 years ago.

So no, WebKit doesn't count as a browser engine started within the last 10 years. ;)

The point probably is that these rendering engines share a number of the basic assumptions that the new project could challenge (like concurrency mentioned elsewhere in this thread).

paddy_m said browser engine, so Chromium doesn't count. And WebKit wasn't actually new; it was based on KHTML.

Try to find KHTML code in modern Webkit. I'd be surprised if it's more than 5%. By that standard, Firefox uses the same engine as Netscape Navigator did.

I think the intended meaning was a new browser engine written from scratch, and not based on another browser engine that came before.

A similar thing has happened in Gecko. Probably modern Gecko browsers share similar amounts of old code as modern WebKit browsers share of old KTHML code (that is, very little in both cases).

Right, that was my point. It doesn't really matter where it started, whether it's entirely original or not. Otherwise, IE10 should be considered a bad browser, which it isn't.

More important than lines of code, how much foundational architecture do they share? Code is just an implementation detail, architectural changes are more feasible in a new codebase.

Original architectural decisions can constrain and push development in a certain direction. An analogy might be made to evolution: one's phylogeny constrains the space of available organisms available in a given timespan.

5% might not sound like much, but I'd want something comparative. How much code in the 3.8 kernel is shared with what Linus released in 1991? I suspect it's similarly low, but we still recognize them as the same project.

I propose that we sail away from this debate in the ship of Theseus.

The reference prompted me to curse Google for not giving me any good results to "how long does it take for 50% of the atoms in your body to be replaced."

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