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Comment by peterwwillis | Hacker News Reader

"Note: Cap'n Proto is not ready yet"

Okey doke. Closes window

(i wonder if you put half the effort into the code that you did this web site whether you'd have a finished product...)

Measurably less effort has been put into the docs than the code. You can verify this for yourself by checking the commits: https://github.com/kentonv/capnproto/commits/master?page=1

Also, wow, your attitude is horrifically bad.

Also, wow, your attitude is horrifically bad.

You have an intense feeling of fear, shock or disgust because I don't want to use an unready product that I feel has an unnecessarily polished web site?

I'd hate to see your face once I review the code.

Oo, and you like to do the thing where you look up the dictionary definitions of words used to criticize you for their literal meaning. Cool.

My problem is not with your choice to use or not use. It's with the words you use to dismiss something that is well-within the norms of what's posted on here. Unfinished products go on HN all the time.

And, the website's not even that polished! It's a bunch of markdown design documents with two or three graphics attached. So, you have a bad attitude and you're wrong. That's off-putting, and apparently not just to me.

Oh, big bad Peter's going to review some pre-alpha open source code and dislike it. That is sure something that's going to make my face scrunch up.

I'm glad you think i'm cool. Sorry I don't tow the party line and blow every dev who releases a lack of a product so they can build interest based on promises (though I realize there is code available in this instance). I'm also sorry you don't like the website. And thank you for mentioning my name, I so love to see it in print. And sorry about your scrunchy face.

I'm fairly sure your sexual services would not be required by "every dev" who posts their unfinished open source projects on HN. Courtesy, on the other hand, or barring that, silence, could be useful.

http://ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Yeah I don't feel great about publicizing an incomplete product, but as they say, release early, release often. Hopefully getting feedback now means the product will be better once it's production-ready.

This is exactly the sort of product to publicize early. Once too much investment has been made in the details of the protocol, things will necessarily tighten up. Makes loads of sense to open the dialog for the protocol early.

As a systems administrator, I'm relatively annoyed that you identify as a 'professional sysadmin' in your profile and then leave completely pointless remarks like this. There's a reason that we have a BOFH reputation in the aggregate and, typically, users are afraid to ask us for things. It's attitudes like this among us.

Considering that my comment has nothing at all to do with my job, i'm relatively sure I don't give a shit.

The reason systems admins have a bad reputation is: they earned it.

  my comment has nothing at all to do with my job

Correct, but your comment has everything to do with your attitude.

I really hope you get over whatever has made you feel entitled to talk about others' work in this manner. It will only hurt your intellectual development down the road. I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with you or your comment (although I do disagree - that's not the point). I disagree with your attitude in general. When I read this comment, I think of the guy who gets really angry at the waiter/waitress when they bring out a food order that the chef messed up/misheard. I'm not asking you to stop being opinionated, I'm asking you to treat others with some level of decency.

Also, I'm glad you like the site! My friend Amy threw together the design last night and I'm pretty happy with it. :) (I personally couldn't design a decent web page if my life depended on it... :( )

I actually do like it, though I have to say, for technical docs I like more compact designs like this: https://developers.google.com/protocol-buffers/docs/overview (I don't know why, but I feel like i'm scrolling more on Cap'n Proto pages to read the same amount of information as on the protocol buffers page)

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