LinkedIn is a Virus
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Much embarassment ensued.
Surprisingly, about 75% of people who I've never met (online or IRL) accepted the invite.
I'm not exactly sure why Linkedin is worth a damn anymore.
It's essentially myspace for realtors.
The power of linked in isn't building a giant list of everyone who is related to you, it's building a tiny list of really awesome people who have a tiny list of really awesome people who have a tiny list of really awesome people...
TL;DR: If you curate content, don't be surprised if the quality rises.
EDIT: This is the perspective of a more introverted type who tries to build fewer strong connections instead of many weak connections. If you can build and maintain many weak connections effectively, go ahead! I just know that I absolutely cannot maintain those well, and prefer to network with those who can and rely on them to maintain those connections.
But now that linked in is trying to monetize their platform and restricts you from seeing people outside of your immediate network it has become a connect to everyone network.
It has been interesting to watch how linked in's efforts to make money has been leading to the weakening of their platform.
You need to get out there and grow your network in person as well as online. Online should supplement what you do in real life.
I also only add recruiters that work in the specific technologies that I use, I also try and call these recruiters for a casual chat about the state of the market. Only recruiters that I get a good vibe from remain on my list.
This has resulted in me never being out of contract work for a few years now and my network now includes CEO's and MD's at very good companies who I have personally developed relationships with.
Look, I know linkedin's reputation so when I finally signed up, to keep in touch for jobs btw, I made sure not to click things without reading first. It's as simple as that. :)
Can one safely ignore all these "Business" networks? Wonder what people get out of it.
One of the weirder things I've experience is people "endorsing" my skills. Many of which are skills they've certainly never seen me use. I assume they were doing it for some sort of reciprocal endorsement, but I don't want my name attached to someone's skills that I know nothing about.
The endorsements are a particularly bad move by linkedin. I've been endorsed for all sorts of things; Knowing what I've been endorsed for, I don't know why anyone would assign any credibility to those items on their website.
On LinkedIn, I accept all invites. It's my business contact data and if someone wants to get my business contact data in his LinkedIn address book, I am glad to provide them.
On other platforms, I am more restrictive. On Facebook for example, I only accept friend request from persons I know in some way or another.
They all rely on viral growth, viral "features" are often pushed despite no one liking them (see everything Facebook ever did). And most disturbingly if they succeed in growing big enough (Facebook again) then not having one can become a bit of problem in real life.
Of course LinkedIn is a virus. It's what works.
Facebook did this. Guess why it worked out? Now that it's big enough nobody looks at how it got there and says "well its evil in it's marketing so we'll abandon it"
Compare: "Cute cat video goes viral" vs. "Cute cat download contains a virus"
Then compare: "Linked grows with viral features" vs. "LinkedIn is a Virus" (with capital V).
At least that's how I read it.
I'd have to say I'm not sure how someone who is tech savvy can knowingly give a company their gmail account info and expect nothing bad to happen. I only connect with people I know on Linkedin (and generally on g+), so I've never wanted to let them use my gmail info. If you willingly let Linkedin scan your gmail, I'm not sure what you would expect to happen, other than it inviting everyone on your contacts list, just like it says it will.
I'm not exactly a fan of Linkedin, but handing out any credentials to a website you aren't absolutely certain about seems a little naive. Also he admits he pushed the 'connect' button, which is clearly going to connect you to someone. I can see asking Linkedin to put a bigger warning or something, but knowingly giving them your info and hitting connect without scrolling down isn't the act of innocence professed here.
Post should be titled "Be careful giving information to websites".
I agree that letting linkedin in scan your 11,000 contacts is going to be faster, but seriously, how many contacts are useful? I have less than 100, and some of those are kind of iffy. Unless you are a recruiter that has a use for perusing random resumes, it seems unlikely to get much value from having 10k profiles linked.
It does kind of ruin the "introduce me" featureset when everyone you contact is going to say "Actually, err, I can't introduce you guys because I don't actually know him", though.
LinkedIn should mitigate this by minimizing or not even displaying the "number of connections" on profiles and emphasizing other value measurements that don't cause misaligned incentives.
Reasons?
a) you sign in using google. That is actually a REALLY GOOD PRACTICE because it gives you lots of benefits of oauth (I can de-authorize an account).
b) you only have the one password to remember, which is good for most people.
Why it's bad? Because when signing in, the other side can ask for details from your account and the best you can do is say "yes" or "no" and if you accidentally said yes, it's plowing though user preferences (something most people can't do) at google.
What should happen instead? An intentionally slow experience.
a) user clicks the sign in with google+ or whatever.
b) user is presented with option "allow/deny access for XXXX domain to log in with your credentials"
c) user is now presented with (all default off) options to allow sharing of data. There is a big message up top saying "these options are not required for you to log in with your google account. You may lose some functionality, but will not share any extra data with the 3rd party"
Vuala. Everyone is better off.
Also, I had to re-read it about 4 times before I stopped seeing "vulva" :)
Believe it or not, this had happened to me. I mistakenly typed in my Gmail password. When I realized this I started hating LinkedIn with a passion. They're a spam company.
That incident made me stop using easy to remember passwords and move to using KeePass to manage all my accounts.
"Linked-In has the spammiest email protocol out of any service I have ever used. Even after signing-in there is no one-click-to-unsubscribe button (they split it into about 12 scattered categories), and they create new categories periodically and opt you in to them. This is downright deceitful. Pro tip: change your email to one that you never use. It literally came down to doing this or deleting my Linked-in account--unfathomable to me. Also: no more f@#$!ng emails at 4 in the morning. This seems like a jackpot CAN-SPAM class action suit." link: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4930040
Or just set your phone to not vibrate or beep from unimportant emails. Do you _really_ want to be notified dozens of times a day when you get non-urgent or unimportant emails?
Rule 0: Your email password should be unique and not used anywhere else.
The way it was worded hinted that I could chose from contacts who were on both my gmail contacts and viadeo users to connect with them. Not send an add to subscribe to viadeo to my entire contact list (who would ever want to do that??).
It's such a horrible feeling when you realize what just happened.
It emailed my grandmother, who had no idea what that was, it emailed past companies HR, ex-girlfriends, CEOs... This is unacceptable. I don't know how gmail could prevent applications from doing that, but they should not even TRY to do that in the first place.
But one was an ex-girlfriend.
Which was weird, because we hadn't dated long and had, to my knowledge, no social overlap before, during, or since the time that we dated (we met using a dating site). So, I thought, "How does LinkedIn know that I know her?"
And the conclusion I came to is that she had at some point recently uploaded her address book, and deliberately not chosen me as a contact, and then LinkedIn decided to try to nag me into initiating the contact that it knew we probably had.
Which is, to my mind, pretty evil. She didn't choose to contact me. LinkedIn basically used information out of her address book without her permission or knowledge. In an admittedly very minor way, LinkedIn decided to cyber-stalk her on my "behalf," without either of our permission.
(As it happens, we broke up amicably and no harm was done. But still, it was kind of gross.)
Surprise when closing a browser tab does not stop the request from running at LinkedIn?
Calling it a virus is disingenuous at best.
Edit: ... or a way to get page views.
I do hate LinkedIn but for very different reasons, like pretending is a safety measure to not connect with strangers and then charging you for a premium service for direct-emailing anyone you want.
Granted it does allow you to deselect contacts and does (discreetly) indicate the interface is obscuring ~100 people it's defaulting sending invites to when you go to the next step, but you can understand why Joe VP might not expect clicking the blue button to send invitations to the mistress, disgruntled former employee and rival contractors who are hidden away somewhere near the bottom of the list.
Ideally, it should throw up a warning for trying to add anything over maybe 50-100 accounts, like a simple "Are you sure Y/N?" before allowing you to continue adding that many.
For that reason I've purposely avoided intentionally connecting my address book to LinkedIn (other than registering with a gmail contact address) and yet all its "suggested contacts" are clearly people I once shared gmail mailing lists with. It's clearly pretty aggressive about finding contacts in address books at one end or another.
It's not like the UI behaviour is consistent - sometimes clicking "connect" on an individual's profile allows you to edit a message before sending it, sometimes it sends the autoinvite email without further prompting (which is a great way to look like a dick to someone you haven't spoken with in three years). Sometimes if you choose not to edit an English message it decides to edit it for you, sending a user you've corresponded with elsewhere exclusively in English an invitation in German. Basically, if you designed a tool to help people piss off their business contacts, you'd probably come up with LinkedIn.
And yeah, some people don't know what browser tabs do. But it's not like LinkedIn has a visible "undo" feature...
There is a wider implication when people who should know better about safe practices don't apply a little common sense. Claiming "virus" in this case removes personal responsibility.
If someone savvy enough to blog about technology voluntarily exposes their contacts, how will the general public ever be expected to act in a safe manner and thus limit social engineered privacy and security breaches?
1. Go to this page: http://www.crunchbase.com/company/facebook
2. Click on the "In" Widget
3. It says X connections work at Facebook. with "X connections" hyperlinked. There is another link below that says "Follow Facebook"
4. Now you'd think that clicking on "X connections" will show you the connections.
Try it....
5. It actually makes you follow the company.
Now, its not bad to follow Facebook but the other day I was checking out a competitor company and realized it made me follow the company and NO WAY To unfollow from anywhere.
So SCREW you LinkedIn Virus!!
1. Go to this page: http://www.linkedin.com/companies?dspFllwed=&trk=hb_tab_...
2. Click 'Stop following' under the company you wish to stop following.
Side note: happy LinkedIn Pro user here, well worth the cost at least in my case :)
Although I never received follow-up on this. Maybe everybody rejected my request and ignored the e-mails, or the invitations/e-mails were never sent.
I felt really bad when I saw that I just sent an invitation to 13.000 people... including ex-girlfriends, connections so long ago, I checked my e-mail box for the next 2-3 hours, but FORTUNATELY nothing came up.
The folks you contact regularly go into my address book, the rest go into my desk drawer tied up by a big rubber band.
Outlook is the address book, LinkedIn is the rubber band.
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"Shoelaces! Yeah, I'm gonna disrupt the shit out that industry. I'll be the Warby Parker of shoelaces"
No offense to the blogger the OP referenced, I didn't even look at the image but knew exactly the what he was talking about :)
[1] http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/21/face-left-side-more...
Now I'm connected to every apartment manager, recruiter, and random person I've ever emailed -__-
LinkedIn has essentially given recruiters another possible avenue for connecting with people; by enabling their random, direct emails to users to turn into leads.
I thought I was being kind in replying and saying "no thanks" only to suddenly start getting connected with people whom with that was my only interaction.
For what it's worth, a designer that works on this feature tweeted an apology and said they should add a warning, as it was way more common than intended.
the default setting on group discussion is that whenever someone replies to a discussion, all the people who replied before get email notifications.
At one time, I thought Linkedin is nothing but a huge email spam machine.
People use it for jobs and so I'm loathe to delete it entirely, but I still loathe it.
There are people I haven't talked to in a while. Maybe I should invite them to LinkedIn.
Well, that, or I could just send them an e-mail, but that doesn't sound nearly as interesting.
Some of the invites went to people I'd banned from my sites for spamming, an old accountant I haven't talked to in ten years, and PR flacks I had arguments with over sending me press releases I didn't want. My LinkedIn account used to be a pretty well-curated list of people I'd actually interacted with in person before and done some business with, and now it's just a random hodge-podge of a bunch of internet strangers I crossed paths with at some point.
You may end up banned from making future requests, although that might come as a relief and it sounds like LinkedIn might be BSing there given that combine that with support for mailing >1k people at once.
I've been on Metafilter for about a decade and I've interacted with Matt enough to know who he is – but also little enough to be completely surprised by the request.
I accepted it and then followed it up a shortly after with a note asking if we'd interacted more than I was aware of or if there was some other story to the request. It always seems better to be receptive but questioning to me – who knows what the story is behind all sorts of events in life..
Anyway, Matt was kind enough to respond and explain what happened. I thanked him and removed the connection at that point – I try only to keep connections with people I really interact with (or have interacted with) enough to want at least recall, but preferably sit down with and have coffee/beer/dinner, etc. if we were to cross paths.
Correction, that's only two types...
"http://t.co/RTAOpvTo 10 minutes to find how to leave a group on linkedin and need to follow step by step... discouraging through bad ux?"