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These poor guys where born in the wrong countries, here they are poor slobs forced to illegally install shifty software to watch their 'slaves'. Had they been born in China, Egypt, or any of the number of countries with strict internet monitoring they could now be employed by the state monitoring dissidents. There is still hope for them, if they do good in college the NSA may still hire them.

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Really? And why would the NSA be interested in the services of simple scammers? These are not hackers, crackers or anyone with sophisticated skills. They're just scamming people into installing what is essentially a pimped-out VNC server. I bet there even aren't any exploits involved in getting access to the features that they use, just standard APIs.

All in all, I doubt the NSA (or any TLA) would hire them.

I noticed the article said they use the VNC feature and the Device Manager and My Computer Properties window to find hardware info like serial numbers. I've heard of that forum before, I think 90% of the community found it by typing "how to hack" into google, and the other 10% are profiting in some way.

If the DHS gets into cybersecurity, that's about the level of the people they hire for airport security...

The NSA wants mathematicians to work on cryptanalysis and cryptosystems. These ratters seem pretty far from having any skills whatsoever if they need a book to help them get John and Jane Q. Averageuser to run their malware.

That's what I was thinking. I've had skript kiddies who (probably automatically) broke into computers I ran in some form or another, usually no harm done. The idea of the government handing out national security letters all over the place, gagging ISPs, Google, whoever from even saying they'd been searched in past years, on top of the NSA monitoring, Room 641A split cables to everywhere - that is what freaks me out, not some random pervert who might hack a webcam and see me browsing HN in my bathrobe. When I was a young man, the president was having his reelection committee flunkies break into the Democratic party headquarters to bug it, and if those political shenanigans have gone on, you can imagine the bugging and monitoring of people like Martin Luther King Jr., Fred Hampton, and the anti-war people who were monitored back then and who Michael Moore shows are still under surveillance in Fahrenheit 9/11. The dangerous anti-war hippies in Peace Fresno.

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