Ask HN: Are there serious developers working in CMS's like Drupal and Joomla?

Both good answers. I suppose that "serious" was unclear, and my point really was that there seems to be bias against these solutions. I'm trying to find out why and where the best developers are who use these solutions.

"serious" is a very blurry word in this context.

I do consider "serious developers" people who can focus and build solid solutions. What kind of toolset, environment, language they use doesn't matter.

No software is build from scratch today