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I've worked for a couple of the bigger law firms in the UK and I've never come across drug use (of this type).

Drugs may enable and perpetuate this behaviour today, at least in some countries, but I don't think there's much of a case that they caused it. At least if they did it arose in places like the UK without that assistance.

From my experience the root is far simpler - greed. They dangle the possibility of partnership with all it's attendant wealth and status in front of the bright young things and watch them scrap it out and burn out. I have a friend who made partner with one of the magic circle firms and while the rewards are amazing, I wouldn't swap his life for mine in a million years.

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They dangle the possibility of partnership with all it's attendant wealth and status in front of the bright young things and watch them scrap it out and burn out.

It used to be that about 5% didn't make partner. It was like getting fired-- in the 1970s, when that itself was rare. It was harder to get an associate position, but once you were in, you were solid. Also, work hours were not at the extreme that they are now.

Now, instead of 5% not making partner, it's about 5% who make partner.

That's because some really evil, greedy fucks got in charge and realized they could replace partnerships with overworked, churn-and-burn associates.

> That's because some really evil, greedy fucks got in charge and realized they could replace partnerships with overworked, churn-and-burn associates.

Or could it be that there are way too many lawyers being produced every year and the realities of a highly competitive market have set in?

http://flustercucked.blogspot.com/2010/07/40-years-of-lawyer...

You're right that the number who make partner has shrunk massively (and the competitiveness goes further in that being a partner is no longer as secure as it was - several of the large firms have ousted partners which would previously have been almost unheard of).

The upside (at least for those competing) is that many who don't make partner will still go on to secure corporate lawyer jobs earning six figures...

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