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Why would you pay for such service if one can get a normal secure and federated XMPP service for free? Whatsapp offers no advantages of XMPP (no interoperability and no federation) and only adds problems (flawed security). Paying money for such kind of disservice is simply strange.

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Adoption. That is one of the main reasons why most people won't mind paying for whatsapp ; almost everyone on their contacts list already uses the app and frankly most people don't know or care much about whatsapp's security measures.

None of my contacts use it, so I can't say anything about adoption. But if someone needs to use an IM network - there are good XMPP services. Simply invite your friends to any federated XMPP server and you have an interoperable way to communicate with them.

"Simply invite your friends to any federated XMPP server..."

I can't even get my friends to click invitation links to pre-baked apps.

Explain to them what's bad about walled IM networks (it's like not being able to send e-mails between AOL and Compuserve back in the day) and explain what is the point in the federated XMPP networks. Then explain why Whatsapp security is totally broken. If people won't care after that - just leave them alone. :) Most people understand, but claim they are too tied in the existing walled networks. Some don't mind registering on some XMPP server in addition, so you can get a range of results.

The obvious advantage is that other people use Whatsapp, which is important for a messaging app.

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