Tony has been found ok by the police
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Why? How is it news, or even interesting to people who don't know this person? Because the guy is a programmer? Are we going to also bump up every amber alert where the parent is a programmer? If we extrapolate this far enough, it some point in the future, we'd probably never see anything else here.
I'm really hoping its just the newness of the internet being used as the sucidial's cry for help that makes this get front page here, because I think I prefer stories about erlang.
Spending three paragraphs complaining about it is probably a little misguided, however.
I care about this guy I've never known, and that he gets help.
I also care about HN, and that discussion here continues to remain on topic. I do think this case is important enough to maybe make an exception, but still worth raising the point afterward that it is a bit off topic.
If these three paragraphs can help shape this community, and what people do and do not choose to up vote, I think the comment is spot on and very well directed. I think that was the point, not trying to emphasize callousness or whine.
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Besides which, it wasn't news per-say; HN was used as a medium to which might help locate Tony or gather information that could be used to contact him.
I think this about sums it up. If the OP is looking for a link aggregation site with only links pertinent to himself, he is in for a lot of disappointment; the current state of technology makes that a virtual impossibility. While I don't find the majority of links posted on HN that interesting, I feel that it does a better job of linking to stories that I want to read than just about every other link aggregation site out there.
It seems that criticizing you and calling you names is worthy of karma and that a reasonably thought out point is not. I'd rethink about where you spend so much of your time in future - I certainly don't post as much as I used to. I tend to vote you up though, because even if I don't agree with you, you at least put your case properly, unlike some of the name calling, emotionally wrought folks on here lately.
But again it begs the question, do we do this sort of thing for every programmer in one sort of trouble or another? If so, this site could easily be overwhelmed.
Hey, I'm just a messenger :)
That said I guess one can hardly blame his IRC friends for posting to the list just in cae :)
EDIT: removed Off Topic comments. ;)
I prefer raising awareness of an important issue than reading your propaganda about web services. Yes, it was propaganda because you lacked data. Hard core data to support any of your suggestions.
Hell, we've already got TMZ for nerds in the form of ValleyWag so even our educated consort likes drama & gossip.
What also happens is that through the power of media some people end up in your monkey circle, while you are not in theirs. If you see something really graphic on the screen or read something that makes you empathize it becomes more likely to happen.
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Your comment makes you sound like an asshole. Sorry to have to put it that way, but there you go. I'm not saying you are an asshole -- heck, I don't even know you. But dang, that just doesn't sound right.
I understand your point, however. There are easily dozens if not hundreds of extreme distress situations that happen to programmers every day.
I think the proper thing is to wait until you see a pattern, then comment. And then only in measured language, for one day it may be you they are looking for. One instance does not a pattern make.
That's my opinion, fwiw. You don't have to care -- you just need to keep your piehole shut. A time for talking and a time for quiet, that kind of thing.
I find it's best to discuss problems before they become a pattern. Not to mention, this is a pattern. There was a whole similar (though far less urgent and interesting) thread from Zed Shaw that had a few top posts here before. There was the dude from Justin.tv, which at least you could argue was relevant due to that startup's affiliation with YC. I'd bet there were others I've missed or can't remember.
The problem is, of course, that these sorts of stories could overrun every social news site with ease, especially given that each one will lead to multiple posts. Every time someone says "I'm going to commit suicide" dozens of people on each site will think "Hey, I can help find this guy by posting to HN/Digg/Reddit or upvoting." And since saying you're going to commit suicide is clearly a cry for help (those serious about it just do it) and it clearly gets attention, there will be a torrent of these. Each one will be followed by at least one or two updates too.
I feel like there's some game theory there. You can decide to allow them all, in which case you're encouraging them, which will in turn make the web suicide threats (and other urgent stories) increase, until they're a huge problem. Or you can just delete them all and decide that while we all want to help those people, this just isn't the proper venue, and that having those things here probably hurts the mentally ill people they're meant to help in the first place.
A single death is a tragedy; a million deaths is a statistic.Talk about kicking someone while they are down.
Firstly we have no info about what happened. In all liklehood (as in the majority of cases) this was a cry for help to which his friends responded well. Calling it an almost-death is, at the moment, an overstatement :)
Secondly I think you missed the commentors point. I feel nothing but a passing interest in this - yes I hope the guy is ok but there is nothing I can personally do. It's not something I will remember tomorrow (unless it hits here again). If the posting here bore fruit then that's great.. but otherwise lets move on. EDIT: of course if it was someone I happened to know I would have been notified by the posting and would have done something (just ot be clear :D).
And finally one has to wonder equally whether messages of support from random people he has never seen (on a thread he will never see) would have a positive effect. I doubt it. The same is true for semi-negative posts.
http://bradclow.blogspot.com/2009/03/tonys-letter-to-medical...
If out of neglect, that would point to the need for an automated system that can analyze an MRI and make these kinds of diagnoses.
With the post flagged, the title reads "Tony has been found ok by the police [dead]", which is highly misleading, especially since the link has been removed.
Here's a wikipedia entry about something he did called Reductio: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reductio