Realtime Political Fact-Checking Becomes A Reality With WaPo’s ‘Truth Teller’
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How do we know the "facts" that the system is checking the statements against are in fact themselves true?
Does the system take into account the actual definition of lying? As in that a lie is knowingly making a false statement in an attempt to deceive. If the person speaking believes what they state is true then it is not a matter of lying or telling the truth, it's simply being mistaken or correct. Painting "Liar, Liar" on the forehead of a politician simply because he's mistaken is stupid and a bad thing for an election process.
If the system gets it wrong, will they publish a correction in an equally visible manner and explain what the problem was? How can you trust such a system if they don't?
These "fact checkers" have turned out to be an incredibly bad idea, especially during an election. The idea of fact checking faster only makes it exponentially worse.
That Obama is christian is not a "fact" to people who believe that he's secretly a muslim. Like all other good conspiracy theories, it's based on an irrefutable possible situation. You can't "fact check" that.
Second example on the page, "House Speaker John Boehner claims that raising taxes on the top 2% would kill 700,000 jobs", the link lists three bullet points to refute this: one is completely unrelated to the statement made, the second assumes that Boehner misrepresents rather than misbelieves Obama's intention to only use the revenue to plug the deficit and editorializes that the job loss would happen over a long period of time has an impact on the truthfulness of the statement. The third claims that "relatively small" effects on the economy is not enough to say that proposal will "would slow our economy".
That's not a fact check, that's a counter argument.
fact /fakt/ Noun - A thing that is indisputably the case.
Being separated from reality does not mean you get your own facts. facts are facts.
While I will agree that you can't prove a negative, you can prove that he is not a muslim, which is really the crux of the statement.
The second point is from factcheck.org, not from truth teller. It actually is a counter argument.
That is contradictory? How do you, in fact, prove that? It is not indisputably the case that Obama is a christian, because people are actively disputing it.
> The second point is from factcheck.org, not from truth teller. It actually is a counter argument.
I made a general reference to the fact-checking trend which factcheck.org is very much a part of.
To your second point, it's a work in progress.
It's a distracting point, and I shouldn't have included it - my main argument is the other part of my comment: That too often the facts of fact checks are, in fact, arguments.
If that project was fed with crowdsourced, objective, verified data, then it would really be useful, but if it is fed with the databases of particular media, it can only be trusted as much as that media can be trusted.
And I'm not for or against The Washington Post, since I'm not from USA, and thus I don't really know the political stance or line of thought of The Washington Post. I'm just talking in a general case.
Converting audio of variable clarity to accurate text is still a challenge even for companies who specialize in it. As Siri has shown, it's even harder to judge actual intent.
And then there is at least one other problem: producing the content for each permutation of each political claim...it's not as if politicians phrase their assertions in exactly one way...and properly mapping them to the true/false evaluations.
And there's also the problem of the whole true/false content production, which even the Pulitzer Prize winning Politifact has problems with.
Given these very difficult technical hurdles, either the WaPo has a massive skunkworks budget. Or whoever came up with this has a poor, Jetsons-fueled understanding of computing.
Edit:
To use a software dev analogy, non-devs are bemused at the idea that some developer jobs are focused almost exclusively on testing. "Isn't it the job of a software developer to write software that doesn't crash?" they might ask. Well, yes. That is a part of writing good software, and yet the best software dev places have extensive testing practices. Making sure something is broken is a skill all in itself.