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Feds go overboard in prosecuting information activist (2012)

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It's nice that we're all upset and making a fuss about the conditions leading to Aaron Schwartz's demise (both the mental health one, and the US Gov. Judiciary one). But the truth of the matter is that most of us have followed these issues in the news, and failed to even attempt to do anything (even trivial action) with respect to situations like this one; which are obviously absurd, especially including Aaron Schwartz's. We're all far too complacent, and cowardly; and if we can't manage to sort this kind of crap out, we probably don't deserve the company of people like him.

People go overboard punishing other people. Nobody wants to fix things. The copyright system is broken. Nobody in power wants to fix it. Lincoln had civil rights, Mr. Obama, please help fix this mess.

Even as it goes sad on Aaron, this goes on elsewhere in a different setting http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/house-divided/post/wikil...

I am so sad that the world has come to this. It's a similar painful story in almost every country that I read about. People are constantly under duress of some kind due to their Government.

It is sad that we live in an age where basically all freedoms are stripped from the people except for the upper-elite. All the lies, deceit, corruption, it is just wrong on so many levels.

"Obama" aka Barry Soetoro aka Harrison J Bounel will not fix things. And he probably won't read your comment.. the best way to get things fixed is by trying to fix them yourself.

Talk to people, call your local congressman. Dicsuss these things with other intellectuals and let's all come to a solution which we can implement. Why are we waiting for the president to do something? He is not our Great Leader Führer.

I really wish people would stop acting like Obama is going to do anything different. He had 4 years, going into 5, still nothing has changed. If anything copyright infringement attacks are higher than ever. Unfortunately it's up to us if we want these problems fixed.

Perpetuating right-wing conspiracy-nut theories ("aka Barry Soetoro...") is unbecoming. If it was a joke, it was in poor taste.

Other than that, I agree with your comment.

I'll leave this link here for anybody else who was wondering, as I was, what the hell this "aka" nonsense is. http://www.bnd.com/2012/09/22/2334245/was-barack-obama-ever-...

Nice right-left divide mentality, and your use of the conspiracy-lunatic-fringe-nutjob-retard slang is very annoying. I am not right or left wing.

Fact is Barack Obama is using a fraudulent Social Security Number(042-68-4425) which belongs to a dead man named Jean Paul Ludwig. 042 is the Connecticut SSN prefix - Barack Obama never lived in CT and did not register for a number in CT.

This has nothing to do with democrats or republicans. Conspiracy to commit fraud is a REAL OFFENSE. People go to federal prison for offenses like these. I do not appreciate being scoffed and laughed away based on the "conspiracy nutter" mentality.

I guess you can do the research yourself:

Illegal SSN 042-68-4425 registered to a man Harrison J Bounel is tied into Obama's old house in Chicago. Here are some links:

http://www.examiner.com/article/supreme-court-to-hear-case-o...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2766707/posts

So you're saying that 042-68-4425 belongs to Jean Paul Ludwig, and Harrison J Bounel, and Obama.

And despite how trivial it would be to verify all of this, he's been elected president twice?

I have to call bullshit.

He's obviously a reptilian.

I'm saying 042-68-4425 belonged to Jean Paul Ludwig, but when he died it was illegally forged under Obama's alias "Harrison J Bounel".

Harrison J Bounel and Obama are the same person. He has been elected twice because the current power structure supports this sort of criminal behavior. All these elected officials have skeletons in the closet so nobody is going to go against one of their own.

Believe whatever you want, I am not really interested in debating with hacker news readers. The truth will come out anyways. And Barry Obama has committed plenty of other felonies such as ordering the murder of a 16 year old American citizen overseas through drone strike http://www.businessinsider.com/alwaki-son-yemen-16-drone-201...

You're a right-wing nut and/or a racist. Period. You're getting called out because you're following the same lineage that all conspiracy nuts do. Conspiracy is just another religion. You talk of how everyone doesn't "get it", get information from the likes of Alex Jones or Glenn Beck (sites literally drowning in banner ads), but deny so many counter points. And yet, Bush, who ACTUALLY violated the law and should have been impeached? Meh, who cares about him! He's on our side! Please.

No I do not watch AJ or Beck. I get information from websites and do my own research. I am not a racist, have I brought up race at all? You are a fucking racist. Race has nothing to do with this.

And Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, every one of these fuckers should be indicted for treason. Unfortunately they are not in command anymore - Obama is. So he needs to be held accountable.

Thanks for the right-left and nutter comments again. You say people who believe in conspiracies are like religious fanatics? How about people who adamantly shun every single conspiracy without giving any research at all.

Which sites do you get this information from? So far, you've done nothing to illustrate your point with anything other than 1 untrusted source. That's why it remains a conspiracy theory and not accepted fact.

Conspiracy nuts like to frame the media/government as corrupt yet you provide "proof" in the way I would expect a corrupted government would diseminate propaganda.

When you can get your shit together and provide some actual proof, not embarrass yourself by calling the president "Barry", then you'll get some respect. I'm not against the idea of conspiracy, but we'll never know when it's time to pay attention when your ilk goes around calling the president a crypto Muslim named Barry.

Alex Jones followers denying following Alex Jones while in public is a fairly common phenomenon in my experience. My money is on Alex Jones even if he claims otherwise.

I get my information from godlikeproductions.com, /r/conspiracy, and google news headlines.

It's Alex Jones. He'll say no because then we'll be able to confirm he's a loon. Long before Piers Morgan and the Illuminati, Alex Jones was reporting on religion being a form of mind control, Christians as the NWO and ritual child sacrifices. I actually remember reading something on his site circa 2001, where he made claim that the 2nd amendment was created for advancement of a new world order...today? Opposite story.

None of the loons that follow him like to hear about how divergent he is from what they hold true today.

Godlike Productions is about as close to fact as Alex Jones. Just a bunch of nuts beaking off fear-based nonsense. None of these references are based on reporting. :(

Please do not feed the trolls. Just downvote the comment, flag the user if you have that capability and move on.

> I am not right or left wing.

Then stop parroting nonsense parroted exclusively by far right wingnuts, and maybe you'll stop being tarred with the same brush.

What the hell are you even doing here?

I wondered the same thing. I can't fathom how you could be a programmer AND buy into conspiracy nonsense. It breaks my brain that you could program but not have a focus on reality.

Humoring you for a moment, and assuming he isn't really American born...

...Good for him. The "natural born" citizen requirement is bullshit anyway. What exactly is it supposed to prevent? Anti-Americanism and confused loyalties? I was born in America, I am living proof that it filters out nothing of the sort.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/ssn.asp

Ya, but how do we know that Snopes, the SSDI and the entire world aren't in on it????? /sarcasm

Of course. I mean snopes also thinks the moon landings were real. ~scoff~

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