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Down with government! The internet is dead! LONG LIVE THE INTERNET!

Honestly though, Sweden will never be forgiven. I hassle Swedes every time I see them now, and have done for nearly a couple of years. Mostly they are ignorant (particularly the older ones), but some of the young people are on our side (though not necessarily following the issues). Seems their political and legal systems have slipped together in to extremely right wing, corrupt, and US-aligned without anyone in the country noticing.

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Uhm... since when did Sweden's political and legal systems slip into a being extremely right wing?

Compared to the US, Sweden is extremely left wing (whether you like it or not).

Who isn't extremely left wing compared to the US?

I imagine Singapore, Hong Kong and South Korea. But I may be wrong.

The Swedes won't be forgiven because they let America bully them? Yup, that's logical.

Yeah, pretty much. Sweden is not poor; it is not uneducated; it is not corrupt; it is not dependent on the USA for economic or military aid; it's full of people who ostensibly understand that sometimes the USA should be opposed; and so on and so forth. They have means, motive, and opportunity to do the right thing at little cost to themselves, and they failed to do so.

Sweden has been a close ally of USA ever since the end of WWII. This was necessary due to our location near the USSR.

We might not rely on direct aid but with a small (nowadays) military and an export oriented economy being friends with USA is beneficial.

> it is not corrupt

Well, time to cross that one out of the list. It might just be a small part so far, but since there's nothing to oppose it, it will spread like a disease.

Quickly or slowly, depending on lots of factors. But with nothing to oppose the spread, it is unlikely to stop.

I'm a Swede who will gladly punch you in the face when I see you. The Pirate Bay trial was a spectacle but in no way representative for Sweden in general.

Err, how about the Assange case then?

Or the unrelated, completely warrantless extradition and 23-hour-a-day solitary confinement of anataka, from a third country, with absolutely no legal process?

What about the Assange case? I don't see any wrong-doing there. If there's a conspiracy going on it has nothing to do with the Swedish legal system.

I am terribly sorry, but I do believe that your two responses (shall we call them, perhaps, 'violent anger' and 'illogical naivete') really do only serve to further my point.

FYI I've been a member of the Pirate Party since the start so I believe we're on the same "side" but that doesn't mean I agree with your conspiracy nonsense.

It's about objective breaches of both written law and higher individual freedoms. On a global basis. Facilitated by your government. Against citizens of its own and other countries. Regularly of late. To US benefit. There's no conspiracy, it's objective fact.

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