Apple Keynote now showing ads in its UI
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Or maybe they aren't. They make great devices. I use them. I don't think of them as a luxury though.
> They make great devices
They make great hardware. They used to make great devices - but a great device needs the whole user experience to be great. Ad-ridden UI does not make for a great device. Doesn’t matter if it’s first or 3rd party ads.
It’s a great shame. Apple used to be the design standard to aspire to. Now it seems to have embraced enshitification. All because the market needs that share price to keep growing. And lacking leadership good enough to find another way.
The days of leaving revenue opportunities unexploited for some high-minded set of principles or intangibles are over. Line must go up, and population growth in many major markets is flat. When you can't sell to more customers, you have to squeeze the revenue out of the opportunities you do have.
Linux doesn't have the same support in a lot of critical areas. It's better than it was, but it's still not close enough to be a real alternative.
How so? Just about any major manufacturer has hardware in the same price range.
Everyone has a high-end but Apple doesn't even bother with the low-end.
Dell, HP, etc. all have premium products as well as their economy ones. Apple just doesn't do cheap and economy products.
When that gold plated Apple Watch came out, you could feel the discomfort. That's luxury brand territory.
Even the most expensive Apple Watch isn't in that "luxury" category anymore.
Consider a Ferrari or a Rolex. It's not as much value for money as a cheap car or watch. There's some workmanship sure but most of the increased cost is just perceived value. People buy them because they are expensive, so they can show they have money. That only works if everyone knows it is expensive and the product has a good name.
Cheap stuff sells anyway because people need it and it is the best value for money.
I've been wondering when the Google-ification of Apple will start.
The iPhone boom really let them have the luxury of not behaving like complete assholes for a long time. Now, in order to hit ever higher quarterly targets, they're probably going to start enshittifying like everyone else.
Why they do it? Probably whoever is leading the creator studio team has convinced their boss that they could pump up their numbers by putting this ad in...
* junk hearing aids that appear to produce a strange glow in the users ear * lead generation ads with clickbait statements (looking right now at "Senior Drivers in Your State With No DUI Should Read This") * "Motley fool issues first-ever 9x buy alert" (wow first ever!) * "Little-known Roth conversion strategy allowed by IRS"
I've never intentionally clicked on an ad in Apple News.
This is a service I pay for and these ads are insulting.
How much revenue are they producing relative to my subscription fees? Why can't I pay an extra $1/month to turn them off completely.
Becasue they are making much more than $1 per month on selling targetted ads using your highly personalised and accurate ad profile.
https://support.apple.com/en-gb/guide/iphone/iphf60a6a256/io...
Apple, I'd much prefer to just pay to have no ads.
It’s sad but true. Grandma has dementia. The lights are on but nobody’s home.
The Apple we loved is gone. Jobs died at the release of the iPhone 4S and even Tim Cook has aged out now.
Last one out, turn off the lights. (After declining the Apple Lighting subscription ad.)
Are they devaluing their brand?
Their sales are up.
Brand Finance Global 500 holds that at #1.
Fortune World’s Most Admired Companies places them at #1.
I cannot think of a single metric supporting their brand has been devalued.
Well, aside from a single poster on HN who doesn't seem to realize they're out of sync with the rest of society.
I like to think it's only going to be there while I'm freeloading on the three-month offer, but all I know is that I don't get this with Netflix.
Today, I started carrying cash, and switched back to using the NFC chips in my credit cards.
My iPhone 13 mini will probably be my last iOS device. Tap to pay was hard to setup in grapheneos the last time I checked.
I guess I won’t miss it after all.
This is a really big benefit for me to mobile/watch payments. I don't have to type my pin code on a device I may not trust. I use my biometrics so people don't get a chance to shoulder-surf my pin code. Also, I get a instant notification of how much I actually paid. I don't get that when using the card.
Seeing today's Ledger supply chain attack the concept of compromised payment terminals is a lot less academical now.
Making products informed by how people used tech vs. making products informed by what will drive the stock price up.
Phones you could comfortably hold in one hand vs. phones that need popsockets for relieving hand fatigue because they're basically pocket-sized TVs now
Minimalist Watches that were hyper-focused on fitness and notifications vs. Watches that try to be (and largely fail at being) mini-iPhones.
Voice assistants that were out of the way until you needed them vs. voice assistants that are in your face constantly and can't easily be turned off.
"We won't put ads into anything ever" vs ads slowly creeping into every ancillary Apple product.
Google and Microsoft are just as bad. Startups trying to bring back the "tech as tools" era are under-funded and are mostly trying for acquisitions anyway.
I don't know where to go from here other than slowly detaching from tech, and that makes me incredibly sad.
I refuse to give up on my dreams! :)
why would you lie about such an easy to check fact?
I said I never denied they were there, I just cant see them in my copy so its wrong to call them ubiquitous in Windows.
Go do that to your free users, not the ones paying your salary.
I could make a full macOS clone. I could fix all the little warts that bother me and break out of the walled garden where I want to. Then I can port it to whatever hardware I like.
You could.
You very, very, very likely will not.
They know this and act accordingly.
Come to think of it, the only people who I know of who use Linux as a desktop OS are people in the technical fields: my college CS professors, InfoSec friends, etc. None are just the average person, technically-speaking.
With like a million bucks worth of tokens? Sure.
> Then I can port it to whatever hardware I like.
I think you're missing a point here.
No you can't. Someone can certainly burn a gorillion tokens to make a 3rd rate clone of Adobe suite that get's posted to HN as pre-alpha that fuels 1000 comments like this though.
According to their cofounder they burned less than $1k USD in tokens, which explains the pre-alpha not-fit-for-purpose quality of their apps.
This is exactly the sort of thing that Apple avoided when it had strong management from Jobs. Now...
Apple used to differentiate themselves by not using their OEM apps for ad space. Now they're copying the exact same "curated" promotions style that made Windows packin apps intolerable.
Pffffff..
I wonder whats coming?
The title makes it seem like I can purchase an ad and have some kind of ill-fitting content jumping around the screen, trying really hard for my attention. Instead I see an upgrade path from what is free and widely available to a potentially better product. I see this with open source projects too.
Just because it's hard to discover things I don't yet own doesn't mean I want them shown to me while I'm making a slideshow.
Subjectively, however it feels significantly different to me.
Reasons why that’s the case that I can think of are:
- it shows the offer even when users aren’t searching for the offered product?
- the product that is offered doesn’t signal “in-app purchase”?
- it doesn’t feel like Apple to do this in this way.
It's the line of thinking that companies like Google tend to push. "All our tracking gives you ads for products you are more likely to want!". Well, yeah. Because those ads are more likely to convert to a sale they are more insidious in my view.
I always like it when I see ads for things that I absolutely do not want because it means they haven't figured me out properly. The few times I watch Amazon prime I tend to get car ads, and I hate cars, I'm never going to buy one. Or dodgy gambling website ones, I don't gamble at all, not even a lottery ticket. It means they don't know what I really want and the ad doesn't really put mental pressure on me to part with my money because it's irrelevant.
If we are lucky, Apple can right the ship in time. I wouldn't hold me my breath though.
I miss Steve Jobs.
In my case it's not AppleCare but Apple Pay. Which is actually pretty useless on an iPad anyway but still it keeps pushing it to me and I've owned the thing for years and clicked the go away button many times.
It's also why so many companies love to "partner" with Apple. Like the goldman sachs credit card, the new LG promotion with the homeview etc. Note that this comes hot on the heels of the LG "We own the glass" scandal. Yet Apple finds it more important to promote them. I'm sure LG pays Apple for this "partnership", not the other way around.
Depends if Apple wants their shiny OLED panels, LG are a leader in manufacturing them.
The last time I checked Apple didnt manufacture panels, or have an international banking and credit system. There fore it needs its 'partners' as much as they do.
Who tf uses keynote anyway lol
Ads ruin everything.
I also get a lot of life out of MacBooks, they have been pretty reliable for me.
Never forget.
If you don’t know what latex is, substitute “html”.
Similarly, the choice of LLM is unimportant.
If PowerPoint is sufficient, it (mostly) works on Linux now: https://github.com/Tombert/office365_flake
My entire desktop setup was bought with the cash left over from selling my 10th gen iPad. And I got a Xeon E 2276G, 32Gb of ECC RAM and 1TB enterprise SSD for that.
Serivces have been a huge (and growing) chunk of their revenue for a long time
Do you not see that the problem is not a pedantic distinction between "is informing someone of a purchase opportunity actually advertising" - the problem is I wanted to do some work and Apple wants me to use my limited attention to think about whether or not i want to give them more fucking money?
That said, I don't think it's even a slippery slope from here to "this space for sale".