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I want to share the rage. Can you expound on what makes you scream?

For me, so much about building a traditional classifier goes into measuring and improving its performance on the data you’re making decisions about.

With Jev, we seem to have just ignored all that. There seems to be some magical thinking that, because it’s AI, its decisions must be accurate.

Which I don’t think is really justified given the narrowness of the benchmarks and breadth of tasks people want to use it for.

Idk, imagine you worked on Skype's B2B sales team for years and then COVID happens and Zoom blows up.

Is it a better thing? Yeah. Does it affect me in any tangible way? No.

But come on, really people? All you needed was like one tiny bell & whistle to take this from nothing to the hottest thing of all time?

I bet the timing was the key, people in the last year have been furiously building things that use LLMs as an API and as we work on this stuff we have systems with N LLM steps and M of them are frustrating because you want a specific choice picked or list of things ranked and sometimes the llm will just output something else entirely!

So along comes this thing you can graft in that is more reliable, faster, and cheaper for that, and I get it immediately.

A year ago I'd be like "kinda cool but what it for?"

preordained slop it is then

> because you want a specific choice picked or list of things ranked and sometimes the llm will just output something else entirely!

With structured outputs, that just doesn't happen though?

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