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You would think google, microsoft and apple would be having kittens over this. How will any government or large corporation trust their goods and services if they can be disabled at will because the USA government takes offence to you, or someone in your department. Good for linux I guess but pain for the rest of us.

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They issued a General License concurrent to the ICC sanctions designation to authorize IT/ICT services, similar to licenses that exist for many sanctioned countries. https://ofac.treasury.gov/media/937191/download?inline

Never heard the idiom "having kittens" before. It sounds very cute, but the origin, the belief of birthing kittens because the mother unknowingly ate cat semen, will stop me from ever using it.

https://www.phrases.org.uk/bulletin_board/3/messages/139.htm...

That's citing the pocket trivia book How Did It Begin? Customs, Superstitions and Their Romantic Origins by Rudolph Brasch. As he cites "a superstition, once prevalent among Scottish people" he likely based his claims on Notes on the Folk-Lore of the North-East of Scotland by Rev. Walter Gregor. This reads: "It was a notion that a male cat, when he jumped, emitted urine, and at times semen. Hence great care was used to keep male cats at a distance from food, for another notion was, that, if a cat did chance to jump over food, the one, who was unfortunate enough to partake of it, conceived cats."

This doesn't seem to match the use of the idiom. Meanwhile Greens Dictionary of Slang suggests the meaning is related to the nervousness of pregnant cats. https://greensdictofslang.com/entry/42jrf3i#nizqrgq

I guess so, I now know of a lot of sovereign activities gaining traction (ie the Dutch NixOS based government desktop).

But then again with out politicians being this unwilling to experience some papercuts for freedom [0] I guess they have nothing to worry about. (Although the certainly endured the Teams papercuts until they didn't feel them anymore.) I honestly don't understand why they're crying so hard, I really enjoy Element "ascii shrug".

Ah well, the old saying "Privacy is for Nerds" remains true as always.

[0] https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-microsoft-teams-alternati...

> How will any government or large corporation trust their goods and services

Same as before. Only if you're insane.

He just gave awards to the whole crew yesterday

>National Medal of Science: Elon Musk, Sergey Brin, Jensen Huang, Lisa Su

>National Medal of Technology and Innovation: Michael Dell, Satya Nadella

https://www.whitehouse.gov/releases/2026/10/president-trump-...

Also daily reminder that Jensen Huang and Lisa Su are first cousins once removed. It's a big club, and you ain't in it.

It's almost amusing reading this through the lens of the visa shuttering article from yesterday (which a lot were cheering) because none of the receivers were born in the US.

Dell was born in Houston.

I updated my comment originally Dell and Nadella was missing

Fucking immigrants stealing our … corruption?

Is that amusing, or is it cherry-picking to create an imagined hypocrite that is easier to attack? You should decline the temptation to be smug (in general, but especially regarding people who haven't actually done anything hypocritical).

The administration is the thing to criticize here: Not all individual people who agree with some arbitrary other thing the administration did or said.

You should assign rationality to individuals, rather than assigning irrationality to groups, especially on HN. If you can't resist, I would earnestly ask you to vent in this way outside of HN, on the rest of the internet.

I'm not smug, I'm disappointed. I don't think hypocrisy is necessarily irrational but it is self-serving, morally bankrupt and, in this particular instance, self-defeating.

Not in the least, people are highly irrational, I don't know how you can say this with a straight face. Even me, here, if I were rational, I would STFU, who am I helping pointing out the hypocrisy of it all? Nonetheless, I still think it's hypocrisy. And being bothered by it does not make it not so.

And not the least, this administration did not appear out of thin air. The US population voted it. I sure view the administration as a mirror (and the responsibility) of the US population.

But I do understand your wider point, and I think you're right, this whole thing is non-prodictive.

Insane these awards are going mostly to executives, Musk getting it for engineering sciences is a slap in the face to anyone that previously received the award.

He's a fascist, so obviously he might be good at enginerreing electrical meat grinder opression vehicles or cost cutting departments using AI.

You know what's funny? I live in a very progressive town. Everyone is pissed at Elon. Everyone drives Teslas. And not old one, clearly tons of them were purchased after he went "bad". Clearly people's principles are contingent on the car sale discounts.

Gosh darn goombas.

I personally know people who drive a Tesla and hate Elon. It's strange that you think no one acts contrary to their beliefs?

Sold mine after running it a few months covered with stickers saying what I thought of him. Drive another EV now and will not go back. No discount on the car. Stop generalizing.

There is no contradiction between "most people do X" and "anyone can do whatever they decide".

Hard to understand why anyone would buy a car from a company that has very publicly lost interest in making cars.

Isn't the Model Y the best selling car several years running? It could be argued that Tesla is losing interest in making cars, though the counterpoint would be that they keep making incremental improvements. Looks to me like they are trying not to mess up what appears to be a working formula.

It’s not a case of could be argued. Musk said “We should be thought of as an AI robotics company”.

> Clearly people's principles are contingent on the car sale discounts.

Okay, I'll bite. Do you routinely make your purchase decisions solely on a single factor? Especially big ones, probably second only in size to your home?

It is possible to loathe Elmo but also conclude that given all the various factors driving your decision making, a Tesla ends up being the best fit.

When buying our refrigerator, I didn’t look into how evil the CEO of whirlpool is. It’s quite possible he is as bad or worse. However, at least he has the good sense to be quiet about it.

> at least he has the good sense to be quiet about it

For sure, I think a good CEO stays the hell out of politics altogether, because it will never recruit more customers, it can only alienate.

Yea, for most CEOs, I have no idea what their politics are because they don't wear it on their sleeve and make it part of their company's brand. I can probably guess their politics, but it's not going to affect my purchase decision.

There are a handful of CEOs who just can't seem to keep it to themselves, to the point where they're just begging for people to include those politics in their purchase decisions.

> It is possible to loathe Elmo but also conclude that given all the various factors driving your decision making, a Tesla ends up being the best fit.

Musk is unambiguously an unashamedly a Nazi, and not just for the triviality of his arm gestures. He calls people like my parents traitors for not sticking with their respective races and says people like me should “remigrate” because the west should be white only. He says people like my wife express “hatred against whites” and routinely retweets antisemitic posts. He called his ai system the “mechahitler” and it routinely returns racist responses when asked.

And when people patronize his businesses it amplifies his own wealth, which he then spends to spread his vitriol in multiple countries.

So yes, if you support Nazis financially or otherwise it makes you one too.

> So yes, if you support Nazis financially or otherwise it makes you one too.

Wow.

What’s your “wow”?

You somehow managed not to know the extent of his racism and cruelty?

Or you don’t think that anyone who provides material support to Nazis/Communists/Hamas/the IDF/MAGA is is basically one of them?

Or?

How casually you decide other people are nazis.

That's a conversation-ending statement. And so it is.

For you, out of convenience, nazi supporter and actual nazi (what, performer? activist?) are positions just micrometers apart, if at all. Not everybody considers moral fluidity some sort of virtue to brag about, in contrary

It’s hardly casual, but also hardly complex: if someone is a Nazi in both word and action, that’s pretty clear. It’s duck typing in the real world: the actual origin of the term.

But your defense of racist speech, acts, and the propagation of same sends a clear message too.

Ugh. Rootus made no such defence.

I was about to purchase a £6 tool on ebay, but noticed the seller was named truth_com. I decided to buy it from another seller simply because i intensely dislike the noise coming from that direction. Had i not noticed, and completed the sale, would i be a Nazi?

If i drop pennies in a collection box on a shop counter, unwittingly supporting a terrorist organisation, have i blown up schoolchildren?

What if i see the collection box, research the charity, discover that it funds terrorism, correctly decline to contribute, but then fail to immediately kill the shopkeeper and his entire family? Am i supporting terrorism, by suffering a terrorist to contribute his activities?

Develop some fucking nuance. Your direction is fine, but your insistence on your authority as the ultimate arbiter of morality is not. Calling all Tesla owners Nazis is petulant and self-satisfied.

There’s a difference between making a low-cognition effort (buying a toothbrush or holding a door open) and a complex choice like buying a car, typically a household’s largest or second-largest investment. I’m sure you know this too.

But not between buying a car and marching with blackshirts?

I take it Ford drivers are also Nazis? Henry Ford admired Hitler and advocated for eugenics in America. VW and Porsche, obvs.

Or have these marques aged out? When was the cutoff? Beatniks in air-cooled vauvi buses, all nazis? Jared Holt on youtube, fixing his wrecked 356? Did vw stop being a Nazi endeavour on VE day, or do they remain an overt wing of the third reich in the 21st century? Or was the changeover day the 19th of March of 1982?

You're going to hate the Marshall Plan when you learn about it. You're going to hate the Apollo program. Fucking Nazis, landing on the moon, makes me sick.

Are Tesla shareholders nazis? Where's your fucking pension, gumby? You'd better be whiter than the driven snow, you self-satisfied prat.

Where I grew up in the US it was not uncommon for people to intentionally only buy union made vehicles. Not sure how that works out now when things are built and assembled in a dozen factories but it used to be more simple and union workers supported other union workers. (this reads like the rantings of an old boomer, I'm not either I swear)

There are enough EVs on the market these days that people can afford to include more frivolous factors into their decision making. I was in the market for an EV a few years ago. Solely because I dislike Elon and don't wish to support his business, I took teslas off the table after 5 minutes of research to make sure they weren't drastically superior.

It's all quite true. What is surprising though, that the SAME people who are very outspoken in criticizing Musk are driving Teslas. First, they would put some lame stickers to make the whole thing seem like a joke, now they don't even care to do that. It's almost like their self-proclaimed virtue ends where (tiny) financial pain begins.

I do, something about having actual moral values and stances, not some pathetic when-it-suits-me. Can make life sometimes a bit more complex but then I can look myself in the mirror and be content with what I see without some advanced mental gymnastics.

Nazi germany may have been making the best cars of that era, would you still give them money out of convenience? Not that teslas are best electric cars in the world in quite a few aspects, but they have emotional momentum of early starters.

One simply does not have strong moral opinions and then act directly against them at first minor inconvenience.

This generalizes to "Morality means nothing without a price tag.". People have morals right up to the point that it inconveniences them, so those morals mean nothing. But if you persist in having your morals in one piece in light of discomfort or financial penalties then that is proof that those morals were real.

Also daily reminder that Jensen Huang and Lisa Su are first cousins once removed. It's a big club, and you ain't in it.

Isn't this basically how WWI started?

People at the time thought it would prevent war but it was irrelevant (neither hurt nor helped)

>>Also daily reminder that Jensen Huang and Lisa Su are first cousins once removed. It's a big club, and you ain't in it.

It's almost like culture you are brought in and family values have big influence over what you are able to do in your life. Neither of them were handed their success. It's a good opportunity to learn what makes them different.

Trump, just yesterday-

"The White House considers anyone that uses the term, “Artificial Intelligence,” as opposed to the highly accepted new and more accurate term, “Super Intelligence,” THE ENEMY! President DONALD J. TRUMP"

All because this simple-minded, vile rapist desperately wants to put his worthless fingerprint on everything, and his addled, time-locked imbecile brain decided that he would rename AI. So far I've only seen one pathetic simp so completely busted and worthless they would follow suit, and that's the equally vile and drug-abuse obliterated Elon Musk.

The US has fallen. These companies don't go against outrageously stupid dictums by this terroristic administration because they know there are zero checks and balances, and this vile creep will punish any who counter him.

Astonishing that this guy isn't polling at 0%. Do Americans fully comprehend that this self-dealing clown has destroyed your future?

It really is astonishing

Is he really going to insist on this super intelligence thing? Like he's actually going to somehow punish people who don't adopt it?

Pretty insane to literally make enemies over terminology. I don't understand what he's thinking.

It's a loyalty test. He has done this repeatedly. Just like the hilariously dumb Lake America nonsense, where he stomped on 400 years of American history to think he's somehow punishing Canada -- only to us it was just incredibly pathetic, and yet another example why we need to move on from the fallen husk idiocracy the US has become -- and then celebrated that it was "ratified" because Apple and Google foolishly changed according to the government GIS changes.

Trump is an insanely stupid person. Like, this is beyond doubt at this point. But he is so utterly shameless and unaware of his own endless limitations that it somehow breaks the brains of tens of millions of Americans. It's astonishing.

Important distinction: Google’s official, publicly declared policy is to follow the government names. Apple has never publicly declared any such policy. It was a choice.

(If Apple have indeed said this somewhere I’m happy to be proven wrong)

He doesn't really think, he reacts. And his every reaction is centered around "How can I make this about me?"

True, but his "handlers" are very smart and behind his rants there's usually a very deliberate motivation and accompanying action.

Yeah, that's what I'm trying to puzzle out... Surely there's some kind of objective here to justify this overtly aggressive language?

I mean he invaded Venezuela, and everybody knows he wanted the oil, it makes sense. This super intelligence stuff is not making any sense.

Maybe it's just a loyalty filter to easily see who is actively "bending the knee". If you use "AI" in your discourse it's a subtle sign you don't align with Trump. I'm not sure but we'll know soon!

Peter Thiel recently said that Trump's handlers are not smart but very loyal. Loyal to him, if that wasn't clear.

I don't consider Peter Thiel to be very smart. I've read his "sermons" for lack of a better word and they're just pseudointellectual nonsense, and tech-babble with a dash of religious justification to appeal to conservatives (Federalist Society/Heritage Foundation etc.) I wouldn't seriously consider anything he says to be viable. They're (Trump's cabinet/oligarchs) only loyal as long as MAGA loyalists keep blindly supporting Trump, the second the tide turns they'll scatter like cockroaches.

They don't have to be smart to be dangerous.

That would be a very original way if this is what finally pops the bubble. :)

Yes. Trump is not a rational actor, it is textbook narcissism, not as a critique of his personality but I think he meets the criteria for clinical diagnosis.

If you don't listen to him then it results in narcissistic injury and he will retaliate.

Can someone PLEASE convince him to hold back the tides at beach somewhere?

He is a bit of a Cnut, to be sure.

It's a loyalty test. And he's given his supporters permission to classify anyone who doesn't follow along as 'the enemy' aka 'the other'. It's a shortcut so his supporters know they don't have to give any credence to anything else they say, since now they assign all the other labels and insults he's hurled at 'his enemies' to the person they are talking to.

There's already been a few media outlets (and not just the obvious way right pseudo-media) who have started using it, eager to stay in his good book.

So he renamed AI to SI and decreed that all must use it, and whoever acquiesces is loyal and everyone else is a traitor?

Surely there are less embarrassing ways of doing that sort of thing...

It's meant to be embarrassing, that's part of the control strategy. Once you start doing embarrassing things on Trump's behalf, everyone will know you've done a shameful thing, and you can only escape the shame by digging your way deeper into his cult where it becomes a virtue.

That's pretty par for the course - at least, as far as authoritarian regimes go. It's getting very difficult to think of the US as anything but, at this point.

This is the right answer. People should start pronouncing it see as in yes in Spanish. Let’s see how long he sticks with it then.

Gulf of Mexico -> Gulf of America

Department of Defense -> Department of War

Lake Ontario -> Lake America

AI -> SI

He's been doing this for years. Change the name from something widely used/adopted to something brand new and watch who follows along. Anyone who starts using the new name is a friend, and anyone who doesn't is an enemy.

Twitter -> X

Same playbook.

Apple Computer -> Apple

Google -> Alphabet

Facebook -> Meta

Each of these cases makes sense, though, because the scope of the wider companies had expanded well beyond their original product.

Unlike “Lake America” or “X”, they weren’t renamed just because of ego or out of spite.

I think that is different, alone because the companies still call it "Google" and "Facebook" themself.

I don't want to defend Musk, but renaming a thing you own is a far cry from renaming geography.

(And on that spectrum, DoD > Department of War is somewhere in the middle)

Since he deadnames his own child, I’m happy to deadname his business.

In English?

Trans people typically whose a new name, referring to their old name as their “deadname”. People who insist on using the deadname when they know the person has a new name are deliberately mocking, and even being cruel to, the person who has changed their name.

Musk continues to refer to his trans child by their birth name and gender. I can’t understand how someone would do that to their own child (much less anyone at all).

After purchasing twitter he chose for it a new name and wants everyone to use it, but by not bothering to I’m simply following his example.

I make it a rule to refer to companies by the name they least want to be named by and making sure to tie the old and the new name at every opportunity. More often than not these are attempts to whitewash some crime.

In this case though it appears to be a desire to promote the name as part of committing moral crime.

(Most ppl have forgotten that X was the name of one of the two failing companies forcibly merged by their respective investors to form PayPal. I remember musk being a dick back then too)

Kennedy Center:

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kennedy_Center#Second_Trump_pr...

Including threats to demolish it:

* https://abcnews.com/Politics/trump-administration-suggests-k...

Terminology should not be underestimated, propaganda is a lot about terminology, and whoever designed this renaming campaign knows what he's doing. The politics behind this SI push is pretty transparent to those who really care about these issues.

Please expand on this... I can't think of a reason to rename AI to "super" intelligence. What objective does this accomplish?

Propaganda is simply spammed until it sticks. How could it be worth it to literally make an enemy out of anyone who doesn't take to the new terminology?

Artificial has bad connotations. Super gas good connotations. Trump speaks to the feral mind that drives survival instincts and overrides rational thought. If you’re influenced by it he warps your world in a way that is overwhelming. If you’re immune it’s hard to comprehend because is seems so glaringly stupid.

It's not about whether or not "Super" makes sense. He could have just as easily changed the name to "potato." The point is to change a commonly-used word to something else, and measure who follows along. If you go along with it, you're a loyal friend, and if you don't you're an enemy.

It's like the Facebook -> Meta rebrand, Facebook was a dirty word at the time while Meta wasn't (gosh that didn't last long though) so it was an attempt to try and get rid of the accumulated negativity and hope that searches for the topic of Meta only returned bland and positive results instead of dredging up the many ongoing court cases.

Creating a partisan naming controversy sabotages nonpartisan discussion, and the specific choice of name makes it extremely challenging to talk about the unique dangers of superintelligent AI.

You're a victim of "sane washing". The media has been suppressed to the point of trying to justify every move of this administration as serving some kind of brilliant purpose. Surely the usual special interests are getting their gifts, but a lot of our national policies can strictly be explained by narcissism and dementia. Big Gulf and Big Lake aren't making billions off his other name changes.

> What objective does this accomplish?

Why do you want to know this? Are you planning to do something about it? Anyway, see below.

> How could it be worth it to literally make an enemy out of anyone who doesn't take to the new terminology?

You seem to be mixing the ends here, you think he is the one who's supposed to be afraid of "literally making enemies"?

I'm going to update my world view based on this new information. I used to think Trump was just a right wing guy who put his country first. His actions seem to have become increasingly unhinged.

This is relevant to me because Brazil is going to have a presidential election soon and the right wing is taking over. Trump's brazilian ally is expected to win. I'm gonna start paying a lot more attention to US-Brazil relations.

> I used to think Trump was just a right wing guy who put his country first.

I struggle to remember when I would have ever believed that. I know it is a meme, but there is still so much unfortunate truth to the notion "what would Donald Trump do differently if he were actually a Russian asset?" Because the only good explanation that fits is that he intends to do lasting damage to the USA. Like he is spiteful, feels like we have collectively shat all over him his whole life, taunted him, and now we are to be punished.

A foreigner's amateurish assessment: to me many of Trump's actions at least try in spirit to increase the leverage of the American people.

Tariffs on other countries is exactly what my country did last century in order to foment national industry. It did produce results, including a national computer. I'm not exactly sure why it backfired when Trump did it.

If Trump's someone's asset, he's probably Israel's.

A weak marionette can be played by many skillful hands. He is very weak in his predictable childish tantrums and narcisstic ego polishing.

I'll add he is a china asset - he is really paving way for their unchallenged hegemony in few decades. Also making Europe stronger long term, despite trying hard the opposite. For that and that only, I surprisingly commend him. Not best move for US but we dont care about that.

Maybe its actually better for the world overall, china is now looking as best moral new leader by virtue of just doing nothing, its enough these days. Imagine if ie Xi or puttin' would do same ai -> clains, the laugh around the world would be loud and long

Thanks for sharing. Also, just for clarity, if you look at how my previous comment to you was moderated, you'll understand why I write the way I write here.

Congratulations. Have an upvote.

Establishing precedent. Uncovering who is with him and who is "the enemy".

Kind of annoying for all the people with .ai tlds

But great news for Slovenians!

It’s a dog whistle. Plenty of political zealots coin their own idiosyncratic terms to affirm loyalty.

i feel like it’s something Elon probably said and he ran with it

He does not think, he simply has no filter and that appeals to the working class people who feel like they have been shunned by elitist democrats and their woke fluff (while maintaining the status quo on anything that actually matters). He would have not stood a chance against someone like Bernie Sanders, who cares deeply about working class people without the fluff.

It's literally just a blatant favour to Mark Zuckerberg in exchange for ??????

Here, let me prove it: Meta is the only one that has used that term in the past, going back to the announcement that they were founding "Meta Superintelligence Labs" (end of June last year). Zuckerberg reinforced their plans to use that term back in August when that essay of his that was the talk of the town for like a few days, which used the term "superintelligence" 50+ times. Then, just this week, we found out about Meta's ICANN bid to own .superintelligence TLD. The deadline for those submissions was August 12th. Trump signed the EO on Sept 29th, and now Zuckerberg effectively "owns" that term.

Of course, if it ever caught on, I'm pretty sure Slovenia would benefit more from it (by owning .si).

> Astonishing that this guy isn't polling at 0%.

As an American, I agree. The unfortunate reality is that this kind of thing will continue until his supporters love things like the rule of law, checks on presidential power, and basic decency more than they hate "woke".

The idiocy will continue until it hurts enough, then people might not change but they might make different choices. Until then, we can only hope we fall far enough to learn the lesson, but not break our legs

The question is will it hurt them enough before it's too late for your collective choices to matter more than Thiel and friends' wealth and power. I have serious doubts. It's pretty obvious that the existing checks and balances in this country's constitution simply do not work as they were assumed to function, if at all.

> more than they hate

It cannot be a choice.

By the way, speaking of "awakening" by people that intend to substantially refer to asses is blasphemy.

Americans never cared about any of these things. A shameless demagogue like Trump would have been elected long ago if the establishment in either party had allowed it. The current situation is the result of the demise of the much-maligned gatekeepers in politics and media who managed to save America from itself until now.

> … more than they hate "woke".

Or develop the cognitive powers to discern cause and effect.

Trump voters I know love those things but think the other side is worse. I mean it would be easy for the other side to give up wokeness, blatant racism under cover of DEI and some of the most blatant public sector scams or punitive taxes but here we are - neither side budges and you choose the one that is less likely to hurt you and your family. For many people it's Trump over Democrats.

It's going to happen in EU as well. Most Le Pen/AdF/Meloni voters will be in "those guys are less likely to hurt me" camp and I totally get it.

Surprised he did not choose "American Intelligence"

Surprised it did not choose "Super America".

I can't honestly even look at this.

That wouldn't let his cronies make a lot of money: https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/articles/trump-super-int...

SI (Stupid Idiocracy) has more punch.

But then the acronym is still “AI.” Now, whether Trump realized that in advance, is unknown.

FWIW his polls have been pointing downward at a steady rate for almost 2 years:

https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/approval/donald-trump...

(Posted on the same day one of my coworkers received a $500 check and nastygram about the unusually bipartisan Afoordable Healthcare Act.)

If only he had read a single book at some point in his lifetime.

Artificial Intelligence is objectively the correct term. He's just using stupid Trumpian word-play for fun. It's so stupid and so sad. At least we won't need to listen to this for thaaaat much longer, at least I hope.

How can we even be mentioning that.

What happens is (also) the typical: we work at some level (rational), abscesses work at another level (ventral). The two worlds do not meet.

I get the (somehow understandable) reasons for trying to "boost the spirits" towards RnD in face of campaigns against it (cpr. bernie sander's proposal "20 years of prison to those trying to implement intelligence"), but of course ventral discourse should not be acceptable to people given a right to vote - vote should be for adults.

It's wild that this is getting downvoted. Just goes to show how many people are willing to turn a blind eye. Not a good look for the elections.

Remember, that half of the population is lower than 100 IQ.

And with LLMs being pushed everywhere, the active deskilling campaign / drug dealer first hit is free plan is working.

With dumb people, the louder and more emotional you are, the more the idiots trust you.

Intelligence and academics are the way out. And look how Republicans attack education and libraries. Their plan is straight forward, and the rubes have no clue. But they still vote for them cause of 'liberal cause of the week'.

I don't disagree with your feelings on 45/47, or your assessment of the quote. I just think in terms of analysis it's really vague, very free-association and fatalistic. I think in this context, if you want to land your hit you should tie it to the substance of the article and make a point about how this changes something. I think "45/47 Bad" and "Elon Bad" are well represented takes (and not even wrong!) but people will tune it out because it feels like a repetition of something they already know, or at least that they've already heard.

They’re welcome to tune out reality all they want. The damage is done. It’s too late. Convincing people of that is a waste of time.

I replied to someone asking why multinational corporations aren't pushing back. Many US corporations make most of their revenue outside the US, and you would think these corporations would be more outspoken about the very dark, insular, war-criming path the US has gone down.

My comment directly addressed that. These aren't like incidental character comments, they directly address why the US is so completely broken right now. And this is damage that is permanent. This isn't just another lark that the US will recover from. The days of the US being the centre of the "free world", of commerce, and so on, is obliterated. Inertia is a hell of a thing and it might keep the illusion of maintenance going for a while, but the path is set now and there will be no recovery.

And when this disastrous government is ousted, successive governments are going to be so catastrophically crippled in every dimension that they'll look like failures, which surely will see the enlightened American public vote for the next foolish charlatan, rinse and repeat. I see no way out of this cycle now, and there's no way I can candy coat it.

Yes, sadly. My discussions with tech people outside the US indicate that the rest of the world is learning to route around the US. The damage is more or less permanent at this point.

> All because this simple-minded, vile rapist desperately wants to put his worthless fingerprint on everything […]

Well, he has, just maybe not in the way he may be hoping (i.e., being positively remembered).

> Astonishing that this guy isn't polling at 0%.

the Trump era is an interesting lesson in psychology

Look on the bright side, we don't need to make up any new memes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palazzo_Braschi#/media/File:Pa...

Super Intelligence name change is most likely about enrichment - there were reports about sales of .si (slovenia) increased significantly many months ahead of annoucement - most likely insiders.

> Good for linux

Torvalds lives in the USA. Linux Foundation is in the USA. Good (luck) for Linux. /s

I don’t think anyone expects the sanctions to last very long

Current administration expects ICC to change

Future administration can reverse sanctions since its just the stroke of a pen, economic sanctions don’t require Congress

It does not matter.

The US is untrustworthy, and governments are at the mercy of ridiculous hostile actions that even if shortlived may cause a lot of damage and losses.

Countries should speed up untangling themselves from the US. Be it by creating alternatives to Swift, effectively stop relying on US big tech, etc.

The US is a hostile power and its corporations are venues for it to cause harm.

I agree about that but I responded to a comment about US corporations reacting at all

I dont see why they should react

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