Mozilla met with Microsoft to discuss their harmful design practices

The latest browser stats here https://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share/ show Chrome at 66.45%, Safari 18.2%, Edge 6.02% and Firefox 2.79%.

If we look at Desktop only (since Microsoft has no mobile OS) it is Chrome 65.14%, Edge 14.64%, Safari 8.06% and Firefox 6.09%.

From this we can conclude that Google and Apple are quite successful at keeping users of their OS on their browsers (Chrome and Safari), but Microsoft is not.

Despite the issues Mozilla mentions, it is mainly on Windows that alt browsers succeed.

The problem here perhaps is that if Microsoft makes it even easier for third-party browsers to succeed on Windows, the main beneficiary will be Google rather than Mozilla.

> Microsoft is only willing to move where the law requires it, but not elsewhere.

Sounds on brand. They did have to be dragged to court first time round, can't imagine it'll be different future times

Though realistically Google needs to be next in line. Microsoft is quite capable of destroying their desktop monopoly on their own

Mozilla Research: Over the Edge 2.0: Microsoft’s Design Tactics Still Undermine Browser Choice - https://research.mozilla.org/browser-competition/over-the-ed...

The only harmful thing for Firefox is Mozilla.

Earlier on blog post: https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/over-the-edge-2-100-days... (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50000431)

> Mozilla met with Microsoft to discuss their harmful design practices

Whos ? Mozilla's or Microsoft's ? Mozilla has been copying bad "design" from Microsoft since some time.

A frog and a scorpion walk into a bar . . .