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> Nearly half of this year's survey respondents had experienced job insecurity and insufficient wages.

Insufficient wages, really? I understand you might be underpaid compared to your peers, but do developer really suffer from "insufficient wages"?

edit: I assumed this was US centric. It isn't. I could see insufficient wages outside the US.

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For reference, in my Spanish home town, a large consulting firm is hiring devs right out of college for a little under 20K euros a year. The apartment I grew up in, in said home town, would sell for about 400K euros, and an old one bedroom apartment from the 70s might go for 200K.

So insufficient wages? Yep. It pays more than working at a bar, but not by that much. Anyone graduating CS that can at least go to the bigger cities, or better yet, has the language skills to move further away, just does.

you may find this article interesting: https://elpais.com/tecnologia/2026-04-29/es-un-error-pensar-...

archive: https://archive.is/Ggfma

the españa vaciada continues due to wage stagnation :(

i hope salaries improve, but i'm not optimistic for new grads short term. i'm hoping big companies will learn their lesson that not hiring newer engineers is a mistake. no one will be around to supervise the ai agents if a talent pipeline is not built. there's too much short term thinking in today's gold rush

"Gold rush"? Do you even work? We are in an economic recession. Switzerland had an all time high of companies going bankrupt last year. I talk with PMs a lot. Our clients have no money to order new services from us, so we have to downsize and outsource.

Ironically companies here in Switzerland (and everywhere in the west) outsource jobs to cheaper places like Portugal or Spain so they can pay the same low wage. So I might have to kove to Spain to work for a swiss company and get paid the low wage.

I can't understate how many jobs get outsourced like that. I got very lucky to get a job here, but my employer doesn't have any junior/mid software positions in my country anymore. Not even internally. And it's a swiss software company.

Trough increasing migration and outsourcing we'll all chase the lowest common denominator.

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