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Big Tech's head is at "being evil is just being competent", "democracy is incompatible with freedom" (for me to do what I want). It is also at "humans are obsolete" point. And while Zuckenberg specifically does not have cool quotes, he was at the "who cares about genocide" and "let show weight loss ads to teenagers who we determined have low self-esteem" points in the past.

Notes: actual quote is "If you're evil, you're at least competent. And if you're evil, you're not bad. And therefore, maybe you're actually kind of good because you're at least getting something done"

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Quote was from Thiel FYI. https://youtu.be/B7yl7fEHeKM?t=840

Actual Demon Thiel

Weird that Thiel seems to think the “Antichrist” is a bad thing, given that quote. I suppose he sees it as unwelcome competition.

Impressive how every single statement is absolutely wrong.

You mean wrong because you don't believe this is how they are acting (likely because you are financially secure enough not to notice - part of the problem) or what they believe is dangerous and malevolent or because it's also nonsensical, despite being dangerous and worthy of reproach?

No, more like:

> If you're evil, you're at least competent.

Incompetent evil exists. This statement is wrong, B does not follow A.

> And if you're evil, you're not bad.

They aren't mutually exclusive, so this is incorrect.

> And therefore, maybe you're actually kind of good because you're at least getting something done

This presupposes that "getting something done" is a positive end in itself, which is not a given.

Each phrase is wrong. It's impressive, actually.

i think it was a bad analogy. he was talking about competent evil for eg ai enhanced weapons systems vs incompetent evil for eg middle easterners stoning people coz of religion.

both are evil but you can rationalise competent evil coz you're getting something real done like preventing the upending of the moral world order.

You're getting something real done like destroying moral world order, turning the western world into feudal techno fascist system. Which is his actual goal he stated multiple times.

Considering weirdness of Thiel believes, his praise and support for actual atrocities, including actually in middle east, trying contrast him with violent religious fanatics is weird. They dont contrast, they have notable similarities.

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