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Really? The creator said this three days ago

> Software is over. But for real. I just one-shotted Photoshop. The whole thing.

You're telling me it's not the entirety of photoshop?

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I wasn't ready for this to be posted on HN, but this is moving so fast.

99% parity will take a while, but I'm sure it'll be measured in months and not years.

Feel free to check in on this claim. It's measurable.

you posted this on multiple subreddits and claimed "We're going to reach 100% parity within a month."

and now it's not ready for HN? what happened in the last 24 hours for that to be the case?

i look forward to a beta release of all 7 softwares with 99% feature parity november 5th.

Reddit isn't HN.

I needed to seed a community that could help contribute bug reports and PRs.

I had no intention of posting a thread here until it was more mature, because I knew this would be the response.

For what it's worth, kudos. This is very good use of ai, and bun proves that it is weeks to months till this hits stability.

The haters aren't seeing the direction, and proven examples.

In what way does Bun prove this?

Bun was a conversion of the source code to a different language.

what proven examples? lmao

The direction is going to be mostly about money and legality, I'd have thought.

This will certainly be a good test of the latter. Adobe are very wealthy, and presumably one of the enterprise customers AI companies want to get.

Vibe coders just drain them money and will never pay API prices.

But who will win?

> I needed to seed a community that could help contribute bug reports and PRs.

Holy shit dude you cannot possibly just say out loud that you're using people.

I know that AI makes you feel like god, but this is the style of communication that will be quoted against you. If you truly want to play this game (which I _highly_ recommend you shouldn't) then you must absolutely step that up.

why? Microsoft used Vista to test Windows 7.

seems completely normal to release free beta software and ask for feedback.

Disregard the haters. They were here yelling about how bun rewrite would never work and yet it's done in a couple of weeks.

Thank you.

There are some incredibly smart people on HN, but I wasn't quite ready for this project to face the firing squad. It's still much too new for the world's harshest critics.

With lots of additional effort, I expect this to succeed much like bun. Fingers crossed.

I sympathize.

Obviously you don't need to pay for Photoshop anymore. Does that mean your product is the replacement? No. Just an example.

The fact that you or anyone can get to 95-99% very quickly. The rest can be added over time at a very high pace and some "actual effort".

Unless Photoshop can add some sort of proprietary features then why use them? (they have been doing this with AI features mostly, but it should still all be copyable)

> The fact that you or anyone can get to 95-99% very quickly.

fact? what fact? have people lost their fucking minds here?

This is not even 1% of Photoshop yet. They won't get to 95% in a lifetime or 10.

the "photoshop equivalent" is really broken at a fundamental level. I can't do ANYTHING I tried to do. I'm sure it sort of works but the basics aren't there. Have you tried using it yourself?

The Bun rewrite is qualitatively different, is it not? It's a source to source conversion.

Yes, it is, but it was deemed impossible as well.

by all the same people who are questioning this slop or ?

Haters and people that are denying the reality, so basically flat earthers at this point.

Did the Bun rewrite work? I'm seeing some absolutely terrifying bugs in the GitHub issues, although for all I know they were in the old code, too.

Looks like. Claude Code uses it.

I mean Claude Code is one of the most buggy piece of software in existence, so I wouldn't use that as a measurement. There's also massive marketing forces in play here that can't be ignored.

You posted this in a comment on HN three days ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49934844

And then four days ago:https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49922904

And you've mentioned ArtCraft numerous times https://hn.algolia.com/?q=by%3Aechelon+artcraft

Obviously you've been trying to get traction on this for a while. You can't claim that you "one-shotted photoshop" and then drop links and act surprised when someone decides to test that claim.

I didn't post a thread, ffs. I don't know why you're all jumping me, haha.

Calm down and be patient. Let the community token spend have time to diffuse into the products.

This effort needs a community to climb the quality and parity gradients. But I'm not ready to really show it off until we've hit some thresholds.

I've got the attention I needed to bootstrap this, so I can go back to work.

Bro, you don't get to ask for calm and patience when you make claims like "software is over. But for real. I just one-shotted Photoshop. The whole thing." and then post your repo in various subreddits and HN comments. You did ask for this, whether you have the self-awareness to realize it or not.

But look on the bright side, this is a chance to prove all of the haters wrong. Given your enthusiasm about AI and its capabilities it shouldn't be an issue.

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I see, I was wondering why you did not post it to HN and only mentioned it in comments.

Makes perfect sense to me, since this is obviously an early alpha version.

It already looks very impressive to me, and I look forward to the project proving these doubters wrong.

I hope there will not be legal trouble with Adobe.

Would be interesting if you honestly documented as to if/when it starts breaking old things as you add new features.

scbench.ai suggests this will happen on projects where the human is no longer in the loop, and it's a good sized project to find out.

surprised Pikachu face

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