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> but now I'm just seeing people say/ write it out loud: fuck the US

European here. It's not surprising. We knew we were in for a ride when y'all reelected the buffoon in 2024. But the sheer ignorance and outright malice the US has shown in the last two years alone... tariff wars against what are nominal allies? Threats to forcibly annex an ally's territory? Dragging us into an economic crisis with the completely botched Iran war? Setting up an economic crisis that will put the disaster of 2007ff to shame by allowing the wash trading and Habsburgian investment web in the AI economy?

Trump has permanently burnt bridges here. Even if people were protesting, it wouldn't matter, this damage will take decades to repair.

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In Dutch there's a saying which translates to

Trust comes on foot but leaves on horseback....

You can only spend goodwill once... And boy, the US is burning goodwill at an insane rate right now.

Not in the least because to non US people this seems like exactly what one could/should expect when re-electing this guy.

> Not in the least because to non US people this seems like exactly what one could/should expect when re-electing this guy.

It's not like we are better in that regards... you Dutch elected Wilders, and us Germans are falling for the AfD.

Wilders became the biggest in parliament, he didn't become prime minister.

Also, a US president is VASTLY more powerful than either a prime minister in NL or a kanseller in Germany. The US is also a bigger world power than any European country by itself. So the implications are different.

True. But it is also true that your electorate is susceptible to the same bad judgment that ours is.

Wilders has never been prime minister, nor did we make him prime minister twice.

The US elected him twice. With the second time being after pretty much an attempted coup. This is bad judgment on another level IMHO

And again a prime minister in the Netherlands: 1. does not have the same amount of power as NL is smaller and doesn't put as much power in one person 2. Is always the head of a coalition government in which the extreme ideas have been tabled

Let's not forget that Trump is propping up the AfD and co. They are openly working together to split the EU apart. It's all financed by the same billionaires.

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