You're right. But I didn't mean it like that , I meant the ones who don't use AI don't want to use AI to do anything because they think it's wasting time/cheating , they take pride in saying THEY made something not AI (in the same here) , but the ones who do use AI knows that cheating is fine as long as the product is good. The fact is unless you are some really smart prodigy not using AI is not worth it most of the time.. Atleast that's my experience, I've learned programming myself to the point I can give the instructions properly and see whether the AI did something wrong or not. I think using AI as a way to save time is better than "vibe coding" Again that's based on my experience