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Just finished a David Foster Wallace kick. I listened to the new 30th anniversary audiobook of Infinite Jest (twice) and then The Pale King (twice). Then I listened to "Of course you end up becoming yourself" which is a long-form interview with Wallace by David Lipsky, traveling with him on the Infinite Jest book tour.

I had to listen to the books twice because there are a lot of details that you won't get the first time through unless you're extremely intentional and detail oriented, but I found it was worth it to listen again. I'll probably listen to Infinite Jest again sometime soon, even though it's 64 hours long. IJ is actually really great sci-fi with some important questions for our time.

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I attempted infinite jest and really tried to like it but I hated it. The prose is extremely smart, interesting and insightful and wildly connective. But the overall tone is so oppressively nihilistic I decided life's too short and put it down.

Yeah, I wouldn't say it's bad... but it's not for me. did not finish.

it's not for everybody, but there were some specific things going on in my life when I started it that deeply connected to the subject matter for me

I have had about a hundred pages to go for three years now. I should knuckle down and finish it. It wasn't for me either. A shame because I have enjoyed some of Wallace's other writings.

the last scene is absolutely bonkers, if that helps you get through it

I finished it and thought it was overall good but I don’t know if I would say it’s good “bang for buck” in terms of what you get for the time commitment

There are definitely long books I've read where I didn't feel like I got enough out of them for it to have been worth it, like I read (listened to) Gravity's Rainbow right after and a lot of the characters and plot lines just annoyed or disgusted me, but I'm sure that book means a lot to a lot of people. In the interview "Of course you end up becoming yourself," the author talks a lot about how in avant-garde literature you have to make the payoff good enough to reward the reader for doing the work, and that equation is going to be different for everybody.

Also reading IJ! Got to 50% this week, but it took me about 10 months. I’m a slow reader I think. However, I’m taking notes as I read to help me track how the different characters are connected.

I have become a huge fan of AudioBooks lately, but how in the /hell/ do you listen to Infinite Jest?? With the end notes? With end notes of end notes? With whole chapters hidden in an end note? It was challenging enough on paper. That would do my nut in.

The audiobook version I listened to had different narrators for main text and footnote with audio cue when footnote started as well.

The end notes are interspersed throughout the book where they're referenced, and then a bell rings before returning to the main text. That's why I listened to it twice. I remember towards the end of the first listen-through, I sort-of recalled some of the earlier end-notes, like for example Himself's filmography, which I had basically ignored the first time through, but listened to intently the second time through.

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