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>the goal of games preservation is that the games are played

If their is a goal to allow people without a license to play a game protected by copyright to play the game, I can not support it.

>Games are not wine, and you're wrong. But both can only be experienced by taking it out of where its being preserved and playing / drinking it.

>Yes, it does. It's just that you're not interested in preservation.

I do support preservation but not the flavor of preservation which is piracy. For example someone finds "lost media" and since it's "lost media" that means they can just upload a TV episode protected by copyright for others to watch for free.

>Wait, before you claimed it wasn't. Now you claim it is. Keep your story straight

This confusion is intentionally done by pirates to make what they are doing sound legitimate. There are 2 flavors of preservation. Legal preservation which follows the law in how one preserves the work and illegal preservation which is essentially piracy.

> If their is a goal to allow people without a license to play a game protected by copyright to play the game, I can not support it.

> I do support preservation but not the flavor of preservation which is piracy. For example someone finds "lost media" and since it's "lost media" that means they can just upload a TV episode protected by copyright for others to watch for free.

As established previously, this all stems from you not valuing preservation. If you value copyright over culture, you don't value culture. "Piracy" and "copyright" are arbitrary terms, and copyright is not a goal in itself; it sometimes gets in the way.

> This confusion is intentionally done by pirates to make what they are doing sound legitimate. There are 2 flavors of preservation. Legal preservation which follows the law in how one preserves the work and illegal preservation which is essentially piracy.

The confusion is only created by you. Out of malice, I must assume at this point, since you've implicitly acknowledged you didn't engage with abandonware communities and therefore can only infer (incorrectly) what their motives were. I, in contrast, did engage, talked to the owner of HOTU (one of the largest ones back in the day) and know how they collected games and what their motives were. Having no counter to this, you keep ignoring it and instead rehash the same debunked points.

There's only one kind of preservation: the one that actually preserves stuff.

At this point I know you understand this, you're just willfully ignorant or maliciously distorting the argument.

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