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In this case, you’re right - LLMs did not pirate the books but will that always be the case?

I could imagine taking an existing LLM and telling it “I want to build my own LLM and need as much training data as possible. Go find whatever you can on the internet and store it on SMS://192.168.0.1”. If it downloads TBs of books, did I pirate it?

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Unclear. It’s either you or the LLM provider. Though is that the inference host, the LLM trainer, or some other entity?

It’ll be interesting to see how it plays out. My guess is it’ll be the end user, because of regulatory capture. But maybe the political pendulum will swing away from “bad ideas” soon

Yes, you pirated that content, or the entity you're paying for the LLM pirated it. It's not "oh well the robot did it, not us". That's not a thing. The user of the LLM bears the consequences for what the robot does. If it wipes your hard drive, you lost your hard drive...it's not like the robot is going to compensate you.

I suppose any day now OpenAI will be charged for violating the computer fraud and abuse act for their unauthorized accessing of hugging face servers.

I could imagine telling my computer to download a torrent of of the first season of Seinfeld. It downloads it. Did I pirate it?

If you have that specific of an instruction, probably.

What would happen though if the AI learned that you were a Seinfeld fan and it went out and downloaded it all as a surprise present for you?

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