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Idk, supporting literal terrorism is pretty trendy these days

Like bombing innocent people in boats for a crime that would require a trial and not be illegible for death sentence?

Which innocent people are you talking about exactly?

I think it's a reference to the US bombing small boats in the caribbean and eastern pacific with claims that they were drug smugglers.

Presumably they're referring to stuff like this: https://www.hrw.org/report/2026/07/21/a-dangerous-partnershi...

> documents three incidents that saw ordinary people subjected to abuses, including drone strikes, torture, and arbitrary detention. In a fourth case, a fishing boat and most of its crew went missing amid signs of another attack.

That is unfortunate.

Are you going to bother to mention the millions who have been affected by imported drugs?

Is there any evidence they are not just blowing up random people?

Edit: i have zero faith that the us government is can, let alone is willing to, control the drug trade. This seems to be an excuse to exercise violent control of the americas as an end unto itself. This is in line with our intervention in venezuela, our bullying cuba, our constant abuse of the phrase "monroe doctrine".

You, knowing absolutely nothing about the inner workings of the counter-narcotics operations, assert that there is no evidence that those people are drug runners, based only on ignorance of the facts, yet you are also apparently perfectly content to not provide any evidence to the contrary (that they are indeed systematically killing "random people"), despite the fact that such a claim is completely absurd, and you don't see any contradiction?

> knowing absolutely nothing about the inner workings of the counter-narcotics operations, assert that there is no evidence that those people are drug runners

Well, he's correct that there is no evidence known to him, so there IS no evidence known to him.

To my knowledge, the administration has not released any evidence, only claims: "We know they are drug smugglers and we have evidence that we will not show you."

So there are drug smugglers, but the US isn't targeting them, they're targeting random boats, and the US is doing this for some reason which is apparently clear to OP but hasn't been made clear to us, and that somehow is the simplest explanation for what's going on, despite being entirely absurd?

Oh no drugs, good thing drug crimes come with a death sentence! Even better when it is an extrajudicial death sentence!

If you want to live somewhere suspected drug dealers get summary execution in the streets and death sentences, move to the Philippines or China. Don't try to bring that nonsense here.

If you want to live somewhere South Sudanese get about in shopping centres with machetes, car jacking, and stabbing people on the streets… Maybe don’t come to Australia.

Sooner or later, the West needs to wake up and realise that empathy for the offenders over empathy for the victims, hasn’t worked.

And that includes meth and heroin dealers.

Marijuana, meh, stupid drug anyway. But I know too many people who used weed long term and now have chronic psychosis, so yeah that ain’t great.

That's a problem with your local law enforcement failing to enforce the law. Crime has been dropping where I live almost every year I've been alive, and that's all about opportunity and jobs rather than jackbooted thugs delivering vigilante justice.

Legal definition reminder:

Innocent until proven guilty.

Relevance:

Legal protection in place to protect innocent people. Like you and your family.

Drug smugglers.

We’ve devolved from the proverbial slap on the wrist to the practice of a pat on the back and we’ll wishes.

Anything short of that is viewed as a a crime against humanity.

Were they charged and convicted with a crime? Maybe they should have been...but we'll never know now.

I think that illegally crossing a country's border, especially as part of a drug cartel's narcotics operations, tends to carry some risk

What specific border are you talking about?

Any country

Eligible: qualified for

Illegible: unreadable

Yeah sadly some people still supports the US and Israel considering how many hospitals they bombed so far.

"The protection to which civilian hospitals are entitled shall not cease unless they are used to commit, outside their humanitarian duties, acts harmful to the enemy." - Fourth Geneva Convention, Article 19(1)

There is literally no evidence at all the hospitals in Gaza are used for military purpose other than Israel's claims (and their botched attempt to fabricate evidence by placing guns in MRI machine of all place).

US and Israel also bombed hospital in Iran even though it's obviously clear that Iran doesn't fire ballistic missiles and drones from it.

Show me a picture of a single major Hamas military base that is not embedded in or under civilian infrastructure, just one, and I'll answer your question. Not a training camp, not an outpost, a major military base.

There isn't a picture of it because it doesn't exist? They have bunkers deep underground and that's it? Israel bombed civilian infrastructure because they want to kill civilians, the bunkers underground are just fine. Or else why would you think Hamas still exist today even though basically all of Gaza's building is obliterated?

Meanwhile Israel claim every hospital in Gaza is a Hamas base without any proof, not a single photo at all. Burden of proof is on the accuser, if you support Israel's claim, you should be the one providing evidence.

Note that Israelis already admitted they intentionally targeted civilians, https://www.lemkininstitute.com/single-post/israeli-soldiers...

> The first major case to break headlines in western media was the murder of two Christian women at Gaza City’s Holy Family Church on 16 December 2023. A Palestinian Catholic mother and her daughter were killed by an Israeli sniper while seeking refuge inside the church compound, resulting in condemnation from the pope.

> In January 2024, British broadcaster ITV captured the moment when 51-year-old Ramzi Abu Sahloul was shot through the chest, only moments after he had spoken on air. Sahloul was part of a group of civilians who were fleeing to Rafah in Gaza’s south while holding white flags on the orders of the Israeli military.

And that's not even mentioning their pogrom in the West Bank right now, https://www.haaretz.com/west-bank/2026-10-01/ty-article/.pre...

> The village's municipal council head reportedly said that the settlers attacked residents' homes under the protection of Israeli forces. The IDF also reportedly blocked an ambulance in the village, seized its key and threw it away

Inexplicably, people do tend to vote here. I do, however, condemn the state of the united states of america—the map of the world would certainly be much improved without that name on it.

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