Jobs fight: Haves vs. the have-nots
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I got a great job after I graduated, at Google, but it's nothing compared to what many of my arts student peers did after they graduated.
My roommate studied classics. HN would laugh at that - what an idiot! He's now leading a team in a private intelligence agency that provides intelligence to companies working in places like Africa or China. He's done amazing stuff. He worked on the ground in Somalia, he's lived in Russia, France, China.
Another friend of mine studied Ancient English. What a moron, hey! He's now a Captain in the British Army. He's served in Afghanistan and Iraq. He's currently on secondment to the Pentagon.
Another friend did French Literature. Didn't he know he'd never get a job? Actually he's a top investment banker in London. He earns six times what I do at Google. What an idiot hey!
Another guy, didn't know him really but he was in my college, is now an MP - equivalent of the US house of representatives. He studied History. Didn't he know it would't lead anywhere.
I feel like an idiot for doing CS. Many of those companies wouldn't have hired me as I look like a geek with no social skills. Now I'm at a top job for my field at Google, and I learn less than most of my peers who did arts.
People who get STEM degrees become workers. Some of them found great companies, but not many. My arts students peers became leaders, politicians, managers at the top of massively important companies and agencies.
I got a great job even before I graduated and I am now working my way up in my second job. All my friends who did CS are either working in the field they wanted to, or doing a PhD.
My friend who studied Art History - essentially living off his parents' money while is occasionally does some freelance writing work
Another who studied Politics - working in a record store
A lot of them have given up on finding a career in the field they studied in and have gone into teaching.
Again it's not a representative sample, but I think it's closer to the norm as my university isn't a world renowned university like Oxford is.
I ended up becoming a software engineer only after I made the decision to learn the skills on my own, in my spare time. Best decision I ever made.
However, almost everyone I know NOT in a science or finance field is struggling to survive.
People in the top tier will always be fine
> "We're in a bubble for people with a non-Ivy League, non-technical education," says Andreessen, who studied computer science at the University of Illinois. "If you have a degree in English from a tier B state school, you're not prepared."
If you look at study from PayScale: http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/info-Degree...
You can see that Art History majors on average earn only 64% the top STEM graduates.
Outside the top schools, however, the situation reverses. The employers that hire lots of arts majors (banks, consultancies, etc) aren't looking for people from lesser schools, while employers will happily hire engineering majors from a very wide range of schools.
it seems rather pessimistic to presume that your education is limited to the classes you chose to study at university.
This. I didn't realize it either, and I wish I had. I have a decent number of interactions with educated, intelligent people now, but not with the sort of frequency and intensity with which I had them at university.
I don't know that I ever want to be a proper student again, but I do miss that.
STEM graduates got something that 'Liberal Art' graduates will be missing their whole lives: education. Education not in the sense of understand one's culture, but in the deeper sense of how to advance humanity out of the dirt and trees. It is not surprising that the zeitgeist disregards those fields of study.
This is the best takeaway IMHO. I think the way he characterizes liberal arts isn't quite hitting the mark, however. My experience is that there's less wrong with liberal arts schools/degrees as there is with the legions of young people who wander into university with no real plan, and expect to get a job when they graduate with and English degree (which they decided on in their third year).
Gone are the days where everyone should try and go to college after high school, even if they don't know what they want from it. It's too expensive now, and a BA doesn't serve you well if you have no plan for how to use it. Many would be better just starting working and see where that takes them; college can come later. Many more would do better to just take up a trade, go to a school for that. We'll need plumbers, electricians, and other service-oriented specialists for a long time to come. But so many "office jobs" that required no real skill have been and are being replaced by computers; there isn't the previous cushion for the aimless recent BA graduate to fall on any more.
Big companies should never be viewed as "taking care" of you. Your labor is only worth what the market will bear, and thats changes for better or for worse.
Personally, I am an Art graduate (with a minor in Advertising). I graduated in May 2012 and have a 40hr/week job doing iOS development, getting paid more than I ever have (still not satisfied haha). Some of my peers on the Advertising side are really struggling for work, scrambling together portfolios to land an unpaid internship at one of the top agencies. I saw that landscape when I was still a student and diversified my skills - I started making apps, sans-CS (which is rather freeing once you get past some initial hurdles). I'd like to believe I'm a fairly competent iOS developer, coder and problem solver in general. Math was always my best subject throughout school, but the engineering school failed to scratch my itch. So did the business school, and the psychology curriculum, and really the advertising curriculum as well (but I had to get the degree sometime). I love art though. Learning about the importance of craftsmanship and really pouring my energy into creating something of aesthetic value is what I learned from my art degree. That was monetarily invaluable to me, despite paying tuition for those lessons.
I'm now on a STEM-ish career path with a liberal arts degree, albeit a little behind someone with a pure engineering background, but I'm a sponge when it comes to the new material - and it's all learnable.
Now that I'm at the end of my rant, I think the point of what I was trying to say is that Liberal Arts aren't a thing of the past, and can be very valuable. It's a little intellectually dishonest to believe that only CS based education is good.
A lot of my art major friends may not be sitting with a fat check every month, but they're adding beautiful things to humanity and culture. To me that's a little more inspiring than a slightly bigger number in my bank account. But maybe I'm still young and naive.
Exactly, they won't exist in isolation.
Articles like this may appeal us as engineers who stand to gain from automation, or those afraid of "the computer" who stand to lose from automation. But these combined do not characterize all the jobs that exist. Those that work as doctors, lawyers, etc. have no fear of "the computer" replacing their jobs. Even most blue-collar workers (construction, etc) would not need to have that fear.
I don't think it's arguable that a Google engineer will not make more money than a carpenter on my crew. The thing that bothers me about articles like this is the sense that technocrats like Andreesen assume their needs are everyone else's.
I think his point with tech degrees is that you can get one of those, have no real plan, and still get a job straight out of school.
Humanity can lose a lot more than it can gain if the singularity did occur.
Yes I've read kurzweils book: thoroughly regrettable waste of time.