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> The US does not recognize the ICC.

This American exceptionalism answer has always been amazing to me.

No other country gives two shits if the US "recognizes" the ICC. As a serial warcrime committing nation, of course the US doesn't want it having legitimacy, as it terroristically blows up random boats and schools full of children.

And of course they also want to protect their serial warcrime best pal Israel in the process.

See, the thing about the ICC is that the countries that do recognize it carry out its warrants. Netanyahu can traipze around warcrime nations like the US, but he can't visit Europe, for instance. Because those countries do believe in the ICC. No one is sending military arrest teams to Israel.

How is this remotely the US' say? I have yet to hear an American explain their belief that they get to force others to not have the ICC that doesn't sound like vile devolved, "but we get to murder children!" horseshit. Yes, I get that you're madly in love with committing war crimes, but understand that you're the pariah. Everyone else doesn't have to worsen their standards to the catastrophically low bar you accept. as your pedophile kleptocracy drags your further and further into the abyss.

> No other country gives two shits if the US "recognizes" the ICC.

That's irrelevant. What is this "other country" going to do about it? The only way to impose international law is by credible military force.

By the way, America isn't exceptional at all in that regard. China, Russia, India don't recognize the ICC either. That's more than 2/3 of the world.

> What is this "other country" going to do about it?

Wow, sounds toothless. Pretty weird then the extraordinary lengths the US is going to in efforts to destroy it, right? I mean, these two things almost seem incredibly stupid to claim simultaneously. The US has expended enormous political and financial capital trying to destroy the ICC, all because it's so irrelevant and doesn't matter. You know, not unlike how the various administrative pedos and criminals constantly talk about how little Canada matters by talking about it constantly, 24/7, every fucking day. It's pathetic business.

The ICC is an agreement between the good countries of the world to hold human garbage to account. There is no surprise why this upsets human garbage and busted, shithole cultures.

> America isn't exceptional at all in that regard.

Oh, it absolutely is exceptional. Ignoring that Russia is also a universal shitheel problem for the planet, and there are clear reasons why it doesn't like such organizations, China and India have done nothing to thwart or attack the ICC. Nothing. China has overtly stated that they support its mission and disagree with attacks against it. Because China is an infinitely more civilized country that the US is. Which is why the US is flailing and grasping as a fallen empire shithole relegated to the dustbin of history.

BTW - did you see when Trump thought having a bunch of bombers doing afterburner runs would somehow scare Xi? Pathetic banana republic strongman garbage of a busted idiocracy. Pretty hilarious when that soft-handed weaking imbecile winced at the scary noises, mogged out by Xi who again pointed out that the US is a fallen shithole, all while Trump is showing him the autopen while the entire world laughs at how unbelievably pathetic this all is. But this pathetic business goes hard for tens of millions of incredibly stupid Americans that still fall for this grifter rapist.

> Pretty weird then the extraordinary lengths the US is going to in efforts to destroy it, right?

Maybe the current American administration just hates the ICC and disagrees with some of their rulings and is casually destroying it without so called “extraordinary efforts”.

> and is casually destroying it

It...hasn't destroyed it at all. In all likelihood China will join the group just to fully take the mantle as leader of the world.

>without so called “extraordinary efforts”

The US administration has burned enormous political goodwill attacking the ICC on behalf of Israel. But more importantly they have set the gears in motion for enormous financial consequences as well.

Do you know why Europe is fast-tracking replacing Visa and Mastercard? Because the pedo-kleptocracy in power in the US used those systems to punish ICC judges[1]. Do you understand how profound the consequences of this will be?

See, the US has decades of goodwill and inertia and entrenchment in place. These things don't change overnight. But it again elected a criminal pedo that is pushing garbage polices, so the whole world is being de-US'd. The consequences are going to be enormous for Americans.

[1] - as a fun fact, any business operating anywhere in the world should be kicked out or fined enormous amounts if it ever applies sanctions that aren't locally recognized. If the US abuses the fact that post-WWs the West centralized business in the largest "safe" country among the cohort, it should very quickly be removed from this position.

> It...hasn't destroyed it at all.

Well not yet but if the US proceeds with sanctions that will likely spell the end. But if the US can’t destroy it then who cares? Have your court, go arrest Putin and the IRGC for their crimes. Let us know how successful you are.

> In all likelihood China will join the group just to fully take the mantle as leader of the world.

I don’t see how China allegedly joining the ICC makes it the “leader of the world”. Seems like a stretch to me.

> The US administration has burned enormous political goodwill attacking the ICC on behalf of Israel.

Well some of that (perhaps most) is well-placed.

> But more importantly they have set the gears in motion for enormous financial consequences as well.

Because of the ICC? No I don’t think so.

> Do you know why Europe is fast-tracking replacing Visa and Mastercard? Because the pedo-kleptocracy in power in the US used those systems to punish ICC judges[1]. Do you understand how profound the consequences of this will be?

That’s not happening. First even standing up a “European” platform has challenges because not all European countries agree on how this would be implemented. Second, Americans have and will for the foreseeable future have a shit load of money. Europeans want that money, so they’ll continue to accept Visa and Mastercard. I see American Express accepted more and more too on my regular visits to various European countries. By the way, you know that Europe can stand up payments systems and still accept cards issued in other countries? Tell me, do you think Americans are walking around worried Europeans are not going to take Mastercard or something? Please have some pride and stop acting like random things like this are your political Super Bowl or something. Americans just do not give a shit about this lol and nobody is worried.

> as a fun fact, any business operating anywhere in the world should be kicked out or fined enormous amounts if it ever applies sanctions that aren't locally recognized.

You should be careful not to confuse what you want the world to look like with how the world actually works. I think it’s clouding your judgement and ability to make good decisions.

> If the US abuses the fact that post-WWs the West centralized business in the largest "safe" country among the cohort, it should very quickly be removed from this position.

Good luck or sorry that happened or whatever. Let us know.

> I don’t see how China allegedly joining the ICC makes it the “leader of the world”. Seems like a stretch to me.

It's a process. The US is a busted shithole, and everyone is moving on. Well I guess you have the Board of Peace.

> Because of the ICC? No I don’t think so.

PRECISELY because of the ICC and the US abusing sanctions.

> Americans just do not give a shit about this lol and nobody is worried.

I mean, yes the whole world knows this. Americans are profoundly stupid and uninformed, generally, and sorry but almost all of your comments are just hilarious to this ends. The original claim that the despotic, terroristic US is holding the barbarians back is just the chef's kiss of insane nonsense.

The US is effectively bankrupt. Bond rates are spiralling. Yeah, friend, revisit this thread in 5 or 10 years. You, and so many like you, have absolutely no idea how the world works and it's amazing.

> You should be careful not to confuse what you want the world to look like with how the world actually works.

Never has self-deception been more blatantly stated. Actually amazing.

I mean, good luck with all of that and everything. As your nation spirals with a fascist bag of shit destroying everything.

> It's a process.

What’s a process? Didn’t the poster above already tell you China isn’t a member of the ICC? 2/3rd of the world doesn’t care about the ICC or its dictates.

> PRECISELY because of the ICC and the US abusing sanctions.

So you want us to stop sanctioning Russia?

> The US is effectively bankrupt. Bond rates are spiralling. Yeah, friend, revisit this thread in 5 or 10 years. You, and so many like you, have absolutely no idea how the world works and it's amazing.

Remind us about debt and bond rates in countries in Europe. Perhaps you can speak to the UK, Italy, Spain, and France for starters.

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