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https://www.oversight.gov/sites/default/files/documents/repo...

> Overall, total estimated annual losses range from a low of $5.2 billion in 2023 to $16 billion in 2024

> In 2024, the U.S. ecommerce market reached an estimated $1.22 trillion in revenue

So... between 0.4% and 1.3% of packages by value are affected, concentrated in specific geographic areas. A narrow segment of society highly affected, complaining often and making the issue seem wider than it is. The rest of us living our lives as normal.

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That seems like a lot? Single digit overall and more if you consider concentration and bulky high value items.

I would complain very loudly as well.

> 29.7% of U.S. households experienced package theft within a single 12-month period.

That seems like enough households to make tracking an important feature for most retailers.

While many of those packages might be classified as junk, others might contain medicine for your child or an auto part needed to get to work.

https://www.omnisend.com/porch-pirates/?utm_source=gemini&hl...

This still feels like an American-biased problem though. Global News covered [0] a FedEx survey with one-in-four Canadians reporting parcel theft... without mentioning the time period. One in four over a lifetime isn't good, but it's not the one-in-three annually that you mentioned in the states.

CTV covered [1] how it was only roughly one-in-ten annually as well, which is again a far cry from the numbers in the states.

Does it happen? Yes. Is tracking a harder requirement for Americans due to a lower-trust society? I would say yes as well. Personally, I consider it nice to have, not required.

[0] https://globalnews.ca/news/6196297/canada-porch-pirates-fede...

[1] https://www.ctvnews.ca/toronto/article/one-out-of-10-canadia...

American biased - sure. I assumed all this conversation was about america

In Vienna of all places this has become very common since we got some badly designed mailboxes. Because they don’t trust the delivery guys they don’t have a key but the flipside is that anyone with enough time can get out stuff via the top big slit. Now they also have big boxes with locks but to open them they drop you an nfc letter in your box.

So the junkies look for the bright yellow letters and open your packages. If it was clothes you will find them somewhere on the street close by

You're really moving the goalposts here. You started with "anyone who receives their packages is extremely privileged" and ended with "theft is something that retailers must be aware of in the course of their business". Obviously I agree with the second statement, but not the first.

Going back to your original post, now that we have some numbers to work with, do you really believe that 70.3% of Americans are "extremely privileged" people living in gated communities?

you are mixing up posters

Right you are, my mistake.

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