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AI doing things that creative people do makes me sad. Stole everyone's art to regurgitate it on command to billionaires richer, and save businesses the expensive of hiring someone with actual talent to do it.

I don't care how "good" the graphics become - it will always just be slop. This isn't the part of our lives we should be trying to replace with technology.

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You see this as making animators obsolete. I see this as giving everyone the ability to make professional looking videos for their products, services, events, and websites. Automation has taken many jobs over the years, but it has also given us much cheaper and better products and services. I do not lament progress, but I think we should do a better job of distributing the benefits of this progress.

"Professional looking" is a moving window, has been for a long time.

Right now, looking like an AI did it (even if it was actually a human) is a sign of being un-professional. To a limited degree, one can prompt an AI better and get something that doesn't look as cliché as the default settings, but even then there's often someone who can spot a tell. "You can fool all of the people some of the time, some of the people all of the time, but not all of the people all of the time" applies here.

Art is at least two different things, for at least two different groups: nice to look at etc. is one of them; the human equivalent of a peacock's tail (i.e. the effort is the point and cheating is worse than having nothing) is the other.

I think there will always be a market for human-made things, but this comes with a premium and not everyone can afford it.

Still enables people to do more. Just like Microsoft Word and and a printer / photocopier allowed small scale kinda-nicely-typset amateur magazines / news publications in schools or small local or hobby communities, but it didn't quite rise to the level of professional publishing and typesetting of actual prestige magazines and papers. But that didn't matter, because both relative prestige and practical value are real things.

Making frozen pizza doesn't get close to eating pizza at an authentic Italian restaurant, but frozen pizza is still pretty good. So if someone says "introducing frozen pizzas will enable anyone to eat a good pizza at home, no need to go to a restaurant" then it's a half truth. The true restaurant experience will still have its role, but the frozen product is still pretty good compared to not having that option at all. But your friends will not be at awe at your culinary skills if you make frozen pizza. But they'll still likely eat it and appreciate it when hungry and chilling at your house.

I worked as an animator for years, the work sucks, well, the specific act of animating life is fun, but that's like 20% at most of the job, the rest is politics and coming to terms with the massive out of control exploitation that is the animation industry. Tear it all down.

> I see this as giving everyone the ability to make professional looking videos for their products, services, events, and websites.

Who are they gonna sell those to, though, if everyone is unemployed because they're not needed?

Exactly who, do you think, will remain employed, and what will they do?

In the end, the market decides. If a colleague sends me an LLM message I dont really want to read it. I also wouldnt watch an LLM video if I knew. So, for now, human intentionality seems to be worth a price to some so thats a reason to stay optimistic.

No, in the end society should decide. Saying "let the markets decide" means immediately ceding to those with wealth, since those with wealth can distort markets however they see fit.

I rather live in a world where society decides the nature of technological change, for better or worse, in a democratic fashion than the current iteration we have which is mostly about lighting trillions of dollars on fire while never providing basic needs for civilians (free school lunches, medicare for all, universal childcare, free community college) only to be force fed on what to use by a group of people that do not care about me or my community that always seem to espouse anti-human beliefs.

So I assume everyone in your utopia is still writing code onto punch cards?

Ah yes, "the things will never improve if you help workers one iota" mantra. There's nothing else to say except you want workers to suffer and think progress is based on the amount of immiseration we inflict onto workers.

It's a sick anti-human ideology and it's not shocking when you look at how anti-human tech leaders truly are.

You’ll have your artisanal math proof and hand-made software certifications in due course, no worries.

People used to say someday you can sit around all day and create things. Now they say you can go into the trades and build someone's house or something.

entertainment hasn't consumed art in a while most of it is mass produced at minimum cost and zero artistic freedom. some sparingly rare project that could be called art remains, driven by passion of the craft, and these aren't going away

How would you propose to build an intelligent being which would be incapable of doing this sort of thing?

I mean, ever since AI was a research program, it was assumed it will some day achieve its goal -- in particular, make computers be creative.

LLMs are not "intelligent being"s

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