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Comment by Eduard | Hacker News Reader

blaming the victim

Added to the fact that, if I recall correctly, according to US law it's a breach even if the data is publicly available but unintentionally.

Refer: Weev AT&T

Which is mad, really.

Absolutely.

It is, however, a glowing beacon of an example of law being designed to maintain the status quo and/or protect companies at the expense of individuals.

As someone else said, welcome to late stage capitalism.

I don't see why, and I've no idea what "late stage capitalism" is, other than people like to repeat the phrase.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Late_capitalism#Later_modern_u...

Essentially the emergent properties of extended concentration of power and wealth.

That definition doesn't hold up, though, as Socialism, monarchy, and theocracy all actually combine wealth and power into the top-level institution. So that definition is far too broad.

Also, capitalism is the only one that puts power with the government and money in the hands of a market, which means it's one of the only systems that that definition doesn't apply to.

It is a phrase which implies that capitalism is about to collapse any minute, and that Karl Marx told us so. Marxists have been saying we're in late stage capitalism for nearly 150 years now.

It seems pretty fundamental concept in most modern civilizations. Pick pocketing and purse snatching is illegal despite the property being publicly accessible. We do need reliable courts to determine intent.

That's not really the same, though. If a website has content publicly available, that you should "take", how can a bot determine what it means to publish and what it accidentally published?

Yes, how can a bot determine that? Humans make a judgement call and take responsibility. And maybe a judge makes a judgement if it was a crime or a mistake.

And when the victim doesn't do reasonable actions to safeguard, yes, they are also partially responsible.

If I hooked up a whole server infrastructure, made it possible to remote in to anything as root, no firewalls, no WAF, and security was an afterthought, I would still be responsible for bad actions not becoming with standard and acceptable security.

Even if the hackers shouldnt be hacking, I still did it wrong. I'm still partially responsible.

Not yet, as they haven't given details out. If they were not following standard security practices, then absolutely.

The government is not the victim, the public are. The government is responsible for protecting the public from attackers. Asking the government to do their job is not blaming the victim.

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