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> ... a certain popular "pro-privacy" product beloved by many here ...

If you're talking about Proton VPN, they do support "credential-less accounts" through their official apps, I believe? At least, on Android since 2024: https://www.androidpolice.com/proton-vpn-works-without-accou...

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i am hesitant to really narrow it down, but it is not proton (i am a very early proton customer)

Then why comment at all? This is the danger of speaking in riddles.

I am a little surprised people jump to Proton as beloved by HN. Proton has a lot of detractors and tends to be a target of some conspiracy/controversy. HN darling definitely suggests Kagi, who are not significantly impressive in terms of privacy-tech which I assumed was why pro-privacy was in air quotes.

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