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Lenovo still sells over double the amount of laptops. 48.5 million to 23.5 million for Apple.

Surprised. I thought Apple would sell more, specially in USA, where the price is not that high because of the purchasing power

Apple might be the top laptop seller in the US, not sure. There are more people using Windows, even in the US.

50% of consumer spending is by the top 10% of consumers, with that 10% generally being Apple ecosystem people. Anyone with ecommmerce stats can confirm this, Apple consumers just shop and consume more, particularly at the high end.

This gives the impression that Apple are even bigger than they are.

> 48.5 million to 23.5 million for Apple.

Curious to know how many of these sales are 'corporate purchases' for fleets versus 'personal purchases'. Given a choice, would most people prefer a Lenovo/PC or an Apple product? How many have Lenovo/PC IT-managed work machines and also (choose to) purchase a PC for personal use versus choosing an Apple?

> Given a choice, would most people prefer a Lenovo/PC or an Apple product?

I certainly would, because I demand Linux on all my computers. I can't stand the idea of being forced to sacrifice x% of my disk for things like "Apple Intelligence" or other bloatware that Apple decided I can't remove because it is a "system component." That, plus all the privacy and user control issues posed by an operating system effectively remotely controlled by a third party.

But everyone loves Bono?

I feel apple is huge mostly in the US, rest of the world apple has a reputation for being overpriced so people have mostly never used a Mac and if you have a lifetime of windows usage switching is jarring.. speaking from experience

In Japan, the iPhone commands around 65 pc to 70 pc of all smartphone web traffic, even higher than its share in the US.

Japan Smartphone OS Share: Android Holds Majority at 54.1%; 66.5% of iPhone Users Plan to Buy iPhone 17 Next [ https://finance.biggo.com/news/c2acbc8b-9244-4765-913e-89d63... ]

Global desktop market share for macOS is 15.31% according to https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/worldwide

The two figure can be reconciled if an iPhone user visits more web pages than an Android user.

It is well known for decades that a Mac user spends many times more on software for that Mac than a PC user spends for software, so it is reasonable to conclude that an iPhone user visits more web pages.

first figures are from a survey of 40k people

Anectodal, but I use a Lenovo Thinkpad on a personal capacity, and a MacBook at work (so that was the "corporate purchase")

Given a choice, I would rather have the Thinkpad at work as well.

Ditto.

Lenovo contribute to Linux, and Apple is relatively hostile.

Look at how they break the GPU driver interfaces, and explain to me how that it isn't hostile.

Precisely. And using Linux is a joy. A absolutely hate working on MacOS. If Linux was not an option for me, I would most likely crawl back to Windows than use MacOS.

And boy, Limux runs awesomely on Thinkpad. I got one with 32GB RAM, 512 GB SSD for a mere 600 bucks. Works like a charm, perfect for any software development work.

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