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I have no practical means of scaling it up at any compatible scale. I will not make any money on it either way as well. So there is absolutely no reason for hoarding it. And as I said I did use Claude in the process, so Anthropic already has full access to it anyway and could steal it just as easily if they really want to.

I also doubt it is really that valuable on the OpenAI/Anthropic scale, at the same time if people will use it and it will work for them on the personal scale it is already a major win for me. New ideas and optimizations I could never have thought of might bring this up from a toy model to an actually useful model trained locally. Then people could add RL and RLHF and other cool things to it to make it even better.

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I had no idea HN censors comments. As in they don't exist at all. This explains a lot actually. I mean, they censored for ideas, not bad language. I didn't write anything accusatory or mean towards you, or towards anyone in particular - just purely for the ideas one of my comments to you doesn't exist. So weird.

Hey, do me a favor - can you reply to this and say, just "yes" if you can see it. If you can see my other reply, could you say "yes 2" - thanks

Your both comments are visible.

There are three.

The first starts with: Thanks for your response. The second starts with: Hey, do me a favor And the third starts with: I had no idea HN censors

If you can see all three - then you can also see the censorship by starting a private browser and looking at this story.

There will only be the second and the third.

I've tested in private sessions on firefox and safari and through a few different ip proxies.

I'm going to do some testing in other stories/comments to see whether they detect words, or general sentiment. And I'll get some statistics on if this is predictable censorship, a one time deal, or whether I just hit a race condition in their code somewhere.

Yes, you have a dead comment. It's probably due to some spam filter. https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=bubblegumcrisis shows up other comments of yours as dead. (at least when logged in with my account)

Maybe hit up hn@ycombinator.com and ask to remove your shadowban of sorts. Idk how effective is that.

Anyway something more concerning is that you have at least two flagged comments (in the first page at least). Flagged comments means your comments violated HN rules, at least according to other HN users. It's hard to understand the HN social etiquette but in short, if you are being mean to other people, you might get flagged. So it's largely about the tone of your comments rather than their substance. You may want to read the guidelines (the section "in comments") here https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

How do you tell which comments were flagged?

In my profile settings, I have showdead: yes. It makes [dead] comments show up and I guess [flagged] too. (But I think it only applies to comments of other people, not your own comments)

Keep in mind that you need karma to do many functions in this site. For example, with enough karma you can flag other people's comments, and with enough flags the comments become hidden. With more karma yet, you can vouch for comments so you can make removed comments reappear on the site

Actually I just vouched for this comment https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49790164 because I think it's fine. It was previously [dead] but not anymore

(note, it's not usual to tell you vouched or flagged a comment, I'm commenting because it's what this tangent is about)

This really explains a lot. Whenever I see all the fan boys for Waymo and Apple (strangely people on this board like apple-vendor-lock-in) - and I think to myself, "who are these people, where is the 'rage against the machine' that typified the software industry pre-facebook"

So strange.

I had this weird epiphany this year - you know the Jan 6th - you know how the republicans refused to impeach Trump. I just couldn't wrap my head around the fact they would let someone potentially trying to kill them off the hook.

And then it dawned on me - they were in on it. If they were in on it, everything makes perfect sense. It's the simplest solution.

But it was such a leap for me.

All of the "obviously paid for bot comments" on this site. I always thought - they just slip through - but actually, the simplest solution is that this site is propagating a narrative.

So weird. And so gross. Where did the idealism of the tech industry go? "Don't be evil," they said.

Thanks for your response.

Do you think if you had worked on this for years (I understand that this is hypothetical), would you feel about the same?

I find it strange - I mean, in the past it would be: you work on something, you give it away for free, people use it, and probably give code back. Now, it's: you work on something, you give it away for free, an agent reads it and clones it, you never get anything.

30 something years ago, I was an intern in meeting at a software company, and some guy had put some code on the internet that did this very specific thing they wanted - something to do with instrumenting code - they blatantly stole it. But they at least felt bad, and some people were pretty annoyed, that guy who did the stealing, I think he was eventually fired.

Now, companies can be one removed, "we didn't steal, we transmogrified." Or, "Hey claude, could you take this idea and implement it to run our hardware."

I feel like, the "original sin", the "fruit of the poisonous tree" has to be reconciled.

The people directly involved in the decision to steal with abandon - they should lose everything - maybe their creation might live on, but they personally should go to infinite debt.

It's like the 2008 financial crisis - the oligarchs on the tops of those banks should have been destroyed.

Oh well, sigh.

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