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Comment by VCFundedGenYer | Hacker News Reader

This falls apart completely if you’re like me and only see the list presented on brutalist.report which is strictly chronological and with zero algorithms.

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Indeed, if you go out of your way to circumvent automatic story ranking, the particularities of automatic story ranking no longer affect you...

A capability available without visiting any third party sites, by the way: https://news.ycombinator.com/newest

I just hope you don't believe that somehow this magically allows you to escape bias. A (reverse) chronological sort is still a sort.

How does that differ from turning on showdead and going to /newest ?

That site's interesting, but it would be super helpful with some summaries of the stories and maybe of the comments. Though I imagine that would make it a LOT more expensive to host.

Looks algorithmic to me. Reverse-chronological with upvote threshold(?), where upvotes are correlated with sort rank on vanilla HN.

Again, not a thing if you are on the site I mentioned.

If there's a vote threshold, it's still profoundly influenced by the HN algorithm, because front page exposure is the principal component in how many votes a story gets.

There’s clearly decision-making going on because it’s not listing most HN posts. How is it deciding what not to show?

Not to mention HN posts don’t spontaneously emerge out of the randomness of the cosmos.

Sure they do. Just with extra steps.

Remember that thing Carl Sagan told us: “if you want to complain about AI from scratch you must first invent the universe.”

Saying it a second time doesn't make it any more true.

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