training is in there because it's "trained" to do trivial apps like TODO lists, etc.

I'm well aware it can build apps. But if you arn't tracking what's going on, they're basically creating deterministic gates and tools to get it to do anything.

There's no lie here, it's simply about what you think is _LLM_ and what is the rest of the software that's making it go. I use opencode consistently to build non-trivial apps with it, but it's not doing it with zero guidance, and it's routinely wrong about it's assumptions, and the rest. The thing keeping it on track is opencode, not the LLM's training.