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The Chinese labs are just making fun of the US labs at this point.

Where is the cool shit from the US labs?

With other software, devs convince their managers of the importance of using open source stuff in their stack. With AI, it's usually managers choosing what models to use for the devs. The US labs don't need to give a damn how much devs like open source

> The US labs don't need to give a damn how much devs like open source

In the short term, true.

In the long term, unknown but typically when you hold progress that way while other countries don't you at best end up becoming siloed while the rest of the world continues on without you.

This isn't about liking open source. This is about the labs just being cool and doing cool shit instead of the opposite which is Anthropic where all they talking about is killing everyone and taking everyone's job.

These labs are still (for the time being) made of people, who reflect their lives onto the work.

The US population is much more pessimistic and doomsday driven these days, whereas the Chinese are more optimistic and future driven.

> This is about the labs just being cool and doing cool shit

The point still stands. Devs like "cool shit". Upper management doesn't care

Well maybe they should because companies that do cool shit tend to attract people wanting to do cool shit and those are the people you want to be working at your company.

Unless you want your company to become Google which use to do cool shit but now they dont and now they don't have a single person at the company that can build cool shit so they just release a bunch of lame shit.

I was dev, and now I am Senior level manager. Open Weight models are current main focus for many companies with full alignment with top management for very simple reasons: - stable and predictable performance (no pre-launch models degradation) - ability to tune them for specific business cases (though still rare tbh) - better (at least 60% Opus vs Kimi (real,3rd party)) and more competitive pricing - flat pricing if tokenusage is big enough to justify renting GPU - decent quality - much higher guarantees that data will not be sent somewhere (assuming 3rd party inference providers) - and cherry on top: flat and minimal pricing with absolute confidentiality using Alibaba Apsara stack of recently released AMD Instinct Coder box[1]

[1] https://www.amd.com/en/ecosystem/oem/supermicro/amd-instinct...

You mean all of the frontier models that the Chinese distillation clones are copying? Yeah kinda cool imo. If a dashboard showing training for a model that doesn't even come close to anything us labs have released in 6 months is "cool", then you're a loser

Hahaha. Is that Sam or Dario with throwaway account. This sounds like calling social security, a free handout. Who distills the distillaters? Get it?

lol omg hahahahahah lol that’s so funny

Why the fuck would you or I care about that?

Anthropic and OpenAI literally stole from every human in history and youre out here complaining that the Chinese are distilling models and releasing them to the public?

Why do you care?

Because without those labs to distill from the pathetic Chinese labs wouldn't have anything. Im not impressed by them copying US labs not sure why you are. But go off ccp bot

No crying in the copyright casino.

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