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Russians are Europeans.

Many, maybe even most Russians would like to be part of Europe, even if they would complain about the terms that would enable them to join pan European organizations. For now they are just potential Europeans.

....half of Russia lies in Europe, if someone born in Moscow isn't European what are they?

Russia being part of Europe is a fact and not a preference. It seems like you want to see Europe as being united against Russia instead of this being an internal European conflict, which it is.

Russia's urban centers being mostly located on the European continent doesn't make Russia European. They are, deservingly for starting a war in Europe, excluded from treaties enabling free trade and free movement. That's not a conflict with consequences limited to Europe, and the US apparently needs to be reminded, no matter who pays for the wedding reception.

Yes, obviously - but I'm not sure how that's related. Or maybe actually in fact it speaks of the fact that some terrorist acts within Russia were commited by or on the order of the Russian government.

Many Russians think of themselves not as European but as Eurasian, as if that's something different and special.

They have a whole political doctrine about it. It's crazy identity politics.

Part of Putin's war on Ukraine is that he doesn't want them to think of themselves as European either (although they obviously are).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurasia#Russian_geopolitical_i...

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