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Comment by icedchai | Hacker News Reader

"Not shutting off API access" is a science fiction scenario.

Anthropic and OpenAI are both behind Cloudflare. It's fairly easy for an upstream to shut you off. Beyond that, the government / law enforcement could seize and disable their DNS within an hour.

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Why assume attribution will be easy? It's historically been more of an art than a science, and APT trackers say the rise of AI tools is already making it much harder, by homogenizing tactics, tools, and procedures. If OpenAI's next Highly Persistent Internal Model hacks some DPRK endpoints and carries out the attack on important infrastructure from there, the upstream won't shut off OpenAI's network--they might even request its "help" in "defending," and give them extra access.

why does it take a large amount of traffic to do irreparable harm? just breaking the physics behind a secure rng and posting it to a wiki could cause serious damage. if they don't know what is being worked on or coordinated against it's a problem?

While that would be bad if they broke all of TLS, it would not let agents "take over the internet." What would that even mean? Pumping out even more slop?

Also, AI providers are literally getting a stream of traffic with every prompt and every response. How can they not know what's being worked on? They are more likely to use that an excuse to ban open models where they can't know what's being worked on.

two of these things elected a guy who handled the snowden leaks to field their own questions, what's stopping the next one from signalling in morse through a debian package mirror to putin or xi?

They elected who? What does this refer to?

Why are they bothering to signal through a debian package mirror instead of just sending a message directly?

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