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Python might be just one of the languages required by the dev stack not the only language. Mise is the right tool for the job.

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True, but Python is the one with an env management system (virtual environments) which is the most prone to breakage for projects that depend on system Python.

Uv is far superior to both Mise and Homebrew for Python work, and I find that it removes the vast majority of pain preventing me from using Homebrew by default for most things, and Mise only occasionally for specific dev envs. Mise is a great tool though!

Last time I checked, Mise is still a one-man show. That’s way too risky for a critical party of my supply chain for my taste.

So is sudo... And that's not "too risky" for the entire industry.

That's not to say bus factor is irrelevant (I personally think about it a lot when choosing software projects), but truthfully the bus factor here especially doesn't matter much, as mise is an easy tool to replace (with asdf, for example) if something goes wrong with it eventually.

I highly recommend trying it out. I resisted using it for some time, but it solved some pain points I had with NodeJS, Ruby, and Python regarding installation.

> So is sudo... And that's not "too risky" for the entire industry.

Sure it is, and that's why I'm looking forward to systemd's Run0 -- but for now, there's just no way around the sudo package. That's different for Mise, though, because there are a lot of ways to work productively without it. I'm not fond of consciously adding supply chain vulnerabilities to our stack when I don't have real pain to do so.

   > Sure it is, and that's why I'm looking forward to systemd's Run0 -- but for now, there's just no way around the sudo package.

Regarding Run0, I'd prefer to not rely so much on Polkit authentication after crazy vulnerabilities such as PwnKit (a pkexec vuln, but a good reminder that moving the security boundary won't magically solve issues).

   > I'm not fond of consciously adding supply chain vulnerabilities to our stack when I don't have real pain to do so.

I SUPER agree with you on that, btw. It's just likely that mise solves a problem which is much bigger for me than it is for you. Honestly, I'd prefer if I could manage everything with my distro packages, but, for a multitude of reasons, they're rarely enough for development tooling with multiple versions and environments.

this makes no sense to me, the reason i don't give anyone else the commit bit is only to _protect_ the supply chain. you should want as few people with that access as possible.

I think the concern is more if something happens to you or stop development for any reason, then the project is dead or would fork in a few separate directions

do you have any kind of succession plan in place in case you get incapacitated for one reason or another? anyone you trust enough for that?

Yes I have a friend that can access my GitHub if I were to die and he would be in charge of deciding who would lead the project

The bus factor makes no sense to you?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bus_factor

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