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My ideal system would be something that does matter over thread with zero external internet access. Matter over thread devices are all standardized so no proprietary app required, and the newer iphones have a thread radio built in so you can control them without even a hub.

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Wifi with a firewalled network is a lot easier to debug, which is how I do it in my house.

There's no Internet from the IoT SSID.

I have my AC connected using Matter (over WiFi, not Thread) using esphome-matter, a relatively new extension to ESPHome + a small open PR [1]

Since it's running ESPHome you can easily verify everything it's doing.

Thread would be even better but this is good enough for me. 100x better than the original cloud app it came with. Still no proprietary app required, works on every platform.

[1] https://github.com/DavidvtWout/esphome-matter/pull/53

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