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Go to your first link, click on 2025 and look at the winter values (Nov/Dec).

OK, I see where you are getting it from now.

It's quite misleading to take a two week period and describe it as "last winter". No wonder people give blank looks, it was a transient spike that means nothing. The idea everyone should feel sad is based on arguments about long term averages.

Also just look at the first months of 2026 in the link you shared - the average temperatures are up to 15C higher in March!

But they were almost exactly average in February. You're reading far too much into noise. The idea of a climate crisis is built on arguments about trends that span hundreds of years, not two weeks.

"They were nearly the same average for exactly one day in February" says the guy lecturing me on reading noise.

I think there's some sort of communication gap here. My point is that neither fact tells you anything much, especially not about "how screwed" we are. It's not a battle of data points.

Definitely a comms gap. I'm not going to sit and list all the evidence for the climate crisis we're currently experiencing in an offhand HN comment. I'm going to say something like "this winter we saw crazy high anomalies" to express how screwed we are.

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