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> If you don't want to see ruby posts and AI posts, why are you even here?

I don't know what feeling you got of me from my comment, but it's wrong. I don't mind either Ruby posts or AI posts, and I'd personally probably put Ruby somewhere along 1-3 top programming languages I like to work with professionally, so not sure why you feel like you have to defend something here.

> HN has a lot of Ruby posts because it was, and still is, a really good language

Agreed, but I was talking about specifically frontpage submissions, it used to be filled with them, almost every day, and now there is hardly any anymore. I think most of us long-term users can clearly see the trends over time, or at least feel them.

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Go to new, click down vote on every AI post.

That is how we have less AI stuff on the front page.

But if other people are interested in it and there are more of them than you then you might not get your way.

You'll just get banned.

> Go to new, click down vote on every AI post.

I'm sorry, why would I? Is most of my comment not coherent English or what's going on?

> you might not get your way.

Please do tell me, what is "my way" I'm advocating for here, or implied advocating for?

They have no interest in that, they came from god knows where and want to mangle HN and turn it into some kind of weird neo-luddite doomer forum.

HN is a forum made by angel investors for entrepreneurs, startups and hackers. We like technology, we like Ruby and we like AI because it's useful for what we want to do, and we would like to continue talking about it like we've talked about every other emergent technology before it (including other "controversial" things like Bitcoin).

Instead of trying to torture HN into something it was never designed for, why not go to lobste.rs and unselect the AI button and you won't see AI? Or make your own version of HN that bans AI discussion? You can even be really ironic and use Claude Code to make the forum for you so you can do even less work on that then you do on posting about how much you hate AI here in a forum designed for and by people that understand it and want to discuss it. I ask, once again, why are you here?

> They have no interest in that, they came from god knows where and want to mangle HN and turn it into some kind of weird neo-luddite doomer forum.

What on earth are you talking about?

> I ask, once again, why are you here?

Who are you asking? The person you're responding to, or "they" who I assume to be me, who you think somehow want to get rid of RoR/Ruby/AI submissions?

I'm sorry, but did the reading comprehension just fall off a cliff today among HN users, or what's going on?

I mean I come here to read AI stuff myself, so its kind of a reverse preaching to the choir to me.

For the most part the worst AI garbage gets filtered out in new, so ya downvotes are needed to keep out the crap, but it's up to the community to decide what is crap. The person who made this post wants to tip their finger on the scale to get their way.

With this said fanboyism does suck and we end up seeing the following pattern quite often.

AI haters repeat every anti-ai dumb thing they see regardless of how dumb it is because they hate AI.

AI lovers repeat every pro-ai dumb thing they see regardless of if how dumb it is.

Team sports and team politics are annoying and that's what a huge amount of the conversations fall into.

Completely agree with you. It's stopped being a calm discussion of the pros, cons, neither, and implications of emerging technology, and started being "us vs them" football team fans shouting at each other, but it really feels like the anti AI people are the home team right now, and every other position is the away team.

I feel like I'm taking crazy pills, because I seem like the AI booster in these conversations but in reality I'm fairly middle of the road, and have plenty of concerns about the technology. But we can't even get to that discussion until we can move the overton window from "AI is bad, how can we ban it from HN", and "AI is cigarettes, it will kill half of its users".

The proverbial AI piss is in the pool, it's not going away, I don't know what to tell anybody that doesn't believe that or doesn't want that. It's time to start integrating this into your psyche as something that will be a part of the rest of our lives in a big way.

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