Don't Get in a Crash in a Cybercab
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Even conventional vehicles get at least a rescue sheet illustrating the location of hazards like the fuel tank, airbag inflators and seatbelt pre-tensioners.
https://abc7.com/post/tesla-hosts-event-aimed-training-socal...
They followed a structured arrival and size-up process that (among many other things) involves identifying and neutralising hazards, such as airbags. To do that, they’ll flick through the rescue guide to find out the locations of things like batteries, and other specific details relevant to the task at hand.
> NOTE: If low voltage power is unavailable and the windows are fully rolled up, the door windows may crack or shatter when you open the doors with the interior manual release handles.
> WARNING: When the doors or the area around the door struts of Cybercab are damaged, the preloaded springs for the doors can pop out when the door opens. Access the vehicle from the undamaged door when possible. If both doors are damaged, open the doors with caution. There is a lower chance of the springs popping out if the door does not fully open. Wear appropriate PPE. […]
I've been in quite a few cars with cool frameless windows. They mostly seem to have the property that the window could plausibly be damaged if one aggressively closes the door with the window all the way up (which the car's electronics will attempt to mitigate). But somehow the Cybercab might have the glass break when opening them! How?
(FWIW, early Tesla Model S cars have the windows done correctly. There is a single interior handle. As you pull it, first it actuates an electronic switch that rolls the window down slightly. Then, as you pull it a bit farther, it mechanically releases the door. If there's no power, then the door still opens, just without the window automatically rolling down a bit first. Maybe Tesla should copy their own previous design?)
The preload spring situation is just delightful. So is the upward-opening door. I hope no one ever rolls a Cybercab over and needs to exit.
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Is this an issue? It seems like a good thing. The article also points out something unique the tesla does, other cars generally don't
> If a Cybercab Robotaxi is in the roadway or in a dangerous position, first responders can manually move the vehicle using on-board vehicle controls. .... First responders requesting assistance with moving a vehicle must be in uniform and must be ready to present their badge or official identification to the camera on the vehicle B-pillar. A Tesla representative can then verify the first responder’s identity and grant access to the vehicle controls.
This is cool; because with most cars you can't do anything. Now, they can present their badge in uniform and a remote operator can help move the car if need be. Most cars would have to be dragged.
The author then ends with this point
> It’s wild to me that something like this is allowed on the roads with the assumption that first responders will have to take time to learn how it’s different.
Which seems to be referring to the unique ability to move the car, which other cars don't have. If they don't know about this ability, they just treat it like any other car. I don't see what the issue is. Everything else is EV specific (like don't cut through the floor), which is general EV knowledge.
> Which seems to be referring to the unique ability to move the car, which other cars don't have.
Most cars with keys in the ignition/keyfob in the car after a crash have the ability to be moved if they are still operational (a requirement of this one too). I'm not sure about Waymo, the Jaguar one does still have a physical steering column though and isn't fully drive by wire.
With most cars, if they're capable of being driven, you get inside, turn on the engine, and operate it with the steering wheel and pedals.
It will never going to work!
Even someone with a Flipper Zero could likely get into the thing and fling it around like a giant R/C toy.
That's the dumbest take I've read on HN in a while.
Put it in neutral and push it, if the wheels are still operable and the slope of the road is favorable?
> NOTE: If low voltage power is unavailable and the windows are fully rolled up, the door windows may crack or shatter when you open the doors with the interior manual release handles.
This one seems particularly unfortunate. All of my road licensed vehicles require opening the doors in order to get to the 12v battery when it fails. Always great to also have to replace a window in that case.