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>More than 60 fatalities have been linked to Tesla’s driver-assistance systems. Talk about something that could put a dent in your image!

That seems pretty low?

Driving is extremely dangerous.

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It is. However, "Tesla statistically saved lifes" doesn't make an exciting news article.

Except absolute numbers are meaningless. You need to know driving hours or miles to know the scale. E.g. deaths per 100,000mi or deaths per 100,000hrs.

This site has numbers and sources: https://www.tesladeaths.com/

2013-2025 and only 2 linked to FSD ? The rest are human errors ? FSD sounds better than human drivers just going by that data. How many people have, for example, BMW killed in 12 years ?

"FSD has detected the car is about to crash, please take over control"

They are all "human errors" since FSD and Autopilot are supervised systems, which is why statistics like these can't be used to make claims like "FSD sounds better than human drivers". At best, you could claim that [Autopilot|FSD]+supervision is better than a human driver, but even then there a a huge number of other variables to consider, e.g.: 'human only engages FSD when they are confident it will handle situation safely'->'artificially high miles/crash for FSD'

The great thing about robotaxi is we’ll get the real data. There will be no hiding when one seriously crashes and eventually kills someone.

Then we’ll get facts about deaths per miles driven etc.

Yes and "linked" is a weasel word to imply something without making a definite statement for which there's no proof.

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