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LESS animation library

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LESS cross-browser animation library. Ready for Twitter Bootstrap. Original code created by Dan Eden.

I stopped reading after "If you're a web hipster, and you're already using Twitter's Bootstrap like a whore, you're gonna love this.". I'm not an anything hipster, and I try never to do anything like a whore. Why do people think wordings like this make their products more attractive?

Why do people use "I stopped reading after..."?

The only thing this accomplishes in my mind is to apparently show you have a closed mind, which is not a piece of information that really interests me. What does this add to the discussion? If you don't agree with something then ignore it, or downvote it or even better, give a constructive criticism.

"I stopped reading after..." is an expression. When someone says "It really breaks my hearth when..." they don't really mean that their cardiac muscles are being damaged. Also, calling someone out for bad language counts as constructive criticism in my book.

I did literally stop reading, because, rightly or wrongly, the README said this tool isn't for me. I thought I'd mention it, because I suspect that the author didn't really intend to say I shouldn't use it, and I thought they should be aware that they did so.

When the goal is to get people to use a product you've built, seeing what puts customers off can be very hard because of eg. confirmation bias, tunnel vision, and so on. That's why statements like "I stopped reading after..." or "Then I decided not to..." can be very valuable.

You're probably not the target market then. The author just saved you some time.

I really hope every silly .io site doesn't start having half their page bouncing up and down now...

I'm a front end dev using Bootstrap on some sites and appreciate CSS animations, and I stopped reading after that sentence. Are me and parent not in the target market for a utility like this just because we find the copy distasteful? It's pointless affectation.

If you took that introduction so deeply personally that you stopped reading out of offense, I think you have deeper issues to deal with than the fact that you're not taking advantage of this open source library. This is very much your issue, not the author who has just built a library and then organized documentation just to offer it all for free. I believe he should include whatever sense of humor he wishes.

I really hope that open source authors continue to include their character in their projects. It makes the world a more interesting place.

>If you're a web hipster, and you're already using Twitter's Bootstrap like a whore, you're gonna love this.

What the fuck is this?

It's a joke.

Tongue in cheek, self referential and self deprecating with a dash of realism.

Made me chuckle.

It's affectation that serves no purpose for the library other than to make me think the author has some issues.

He has issues because you don't get his sense of humor? You're out of order with that one.

It strikes me as an attempt at attention-getting, which in my experience often comes from insecurity. I'm not saying this is the case with this guy, but there's just no need for it.

So yes, I think he has some issues due to this particular expression of his sense of humor. It's not like I'm scared away by the language used - it was more cringe-inducing than anything.

It is self-deprecating (as another commenter said), but what might not be obvious is why there is a need for some defensive self-deprecation.

In some web development circles Bootstrap has become a divisive topic. Statements like "You have no business being a programmer if you use Bootstrap", "Bootstrap is ruining the web" and "You shouldn't use web design and Bootstrap in the same sentence" are fairly common.

In that light, the 'web hipster...' statement is more a means of fending off criticism than anything else.

I figured Hacker News and Github were full of intelligent people, but I may be wrong.

A web hipster has no definition. But you could put two and two together to realize, a web hipster uses Bootstrap because it's the most popular front-end framework. And anyone who uses it "like a whore", means you've gotten messy with its insides.

Great! But please go and read how to use animations meaningfully in your ui: http://www.ui-transitions.com/

99% of the tips at that URL don't apply to the OP's animations.

Why is this pointing at a fork of the project?

Edit: Scratch that. I see the original was .css. My apologies!

What the heck is less?

http://lesscss.org/

The CSS preprocessor that lost the popularity race to Sass.

There are some reasons for using one or the other depending on your needs. Ruby vs. JS, for one.

I disagree. I used to use LESS since I could use node, but quickly realized it's inferior to the Sass/Compass combo. 99.9% of the servers that you are able to run node.js on will also allow you to install/run Ruby. What are the other reasons that I'm missing?

I'm curious about what makes Sass/Compass superior to LESS?

A simple example...

    // Less
    .rounded-corners (@radius: 5px) {
        -webkit-border-radius: @radius;
        -moz-border-radius: @radius;
        -ms-border-radius: @radius;
        -o-border-radius: @radius;
        border-radius: @radius;
    }

    // Sass + Compass
    .rounded-corners {
        // All vendor prefixes are generated for you
        @include border-radius(5px); 
    }

I'm sure there are plugins for Less that can accomplish the same. I just grabbed this code from the Less homepage.

Another thing... Sass has much nicer control flow (if/else, while, for) that can create very powerful mixins.

I think that Less has actually won the popularity race thanks to Bootstrap, a nicer website/docs, and front end devs not wanting to learn how to install Ruby. I think it's unfortunate because Sass is technically superior, imo.

http://cdn.css-tricks.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Charts-...

(Could be skewed by the audience participating in the poll, of course.)

Correct, LESS is all I use right now because of Bootstrap. I don't get it though, LESS is open source. If it's so inferior, why aren't there more pull requests to make it better?

I'd imagine it's because people who aren't satisfied with Less are using/contributing to Sass instead... and vice versa. ;)

There are also big differences in design philosophy. I love the if/else, while, and for options that Sass provides, but Less has chosen to forgo that for (imo) a clunkier syntax. Things like that are unlikely to change.

> Things like that are unlikely to change.

Breaks my heart...

Does anyone else use Sass besides the Rail devs?

Foundation is based on SASS.

I'm not a Rails dev at all, but I do use Python, PHP, and now Grails with Sass.

I'm not a Rails guy and I use Sass exclusively. I agree with its design decisions and functionality more so than Less. I've found that most people who install and run Node for command line tools usually also have Ruby in their stack.

Is there a Sass fork of this or is most of the library found in Bourbon + Compass?

I have one of my own: https://github.com/ianstormtaylor/animate.sass

With a couple of changes that I think make the library easier to use, and added a few animations.

Nice.

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