The average user doesn't make principled decisions around what hardware they use, the software they buy or the services they use. We have billions of Chinese phones and Windows laptops as proof of that. You can give them decades to make a healthier choice, and they'll still go back to use Meta properties if it gives them what they want.
HN users are a tiny minority of social media users, and I think it's easy to buy the fallacy that our privacy-obsessed outlook is the norm. But much like YouTube or X, there will be people defending these dumpster fires until their final breath because it's what they want. We can't stop them any more than I can make you quit using HN.
Nothing wrong with either of these. Your snobbery is showing.
By the way, normies have a negative impression of Microsoft, and also use their stuff.
> HN users are a tiny minority of social media users
I am not at all talking about HN users. I am not in an HN bubble. Maybe you are, and you are projecting this onto me.
They've had a negative impression of Microsoft for three decades. Windows is still the dominant desktop OS.
Hence my original question; how much time does a name change buy you? Windows didn't need one, even though it's bloated spyware.