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Yeah well, its easy to do if you steal someone elses work and then try to threaten them into staying quiet about it

Edit:

OpenAI have now admitted they were training on prompts at the time they made their breakthrough:

https://mastodon.social/@tristanbuckmaster/11723647135247030...

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Steal someone elses work, whose work was also AI generated . . .

Whether that's relevant to the conversation depends on what their prompt was.

Tokens all the way down

lol, the "other work" was also probably 95-99% AI generated. By a similar breed of OpenAI (and some Anthropic) models, as well.

I dont know why this monumental achievement is being drowned out by some arbitrary drama. No matter which way you slice it, AI solved this problem. Doesn't matter if it was some internal OpenAI model, or whether it was Astra + Fable.

Yeah but the mathematicians are claiming that the key insight that made the problem tractable for AI in the first place, came from them.

What is that supposed to prove? OpenAI is almost always going to be training new models.

what's there to admit? they always said they do it and there's a way to opt out. you are making it sound more dramatic than it is.

This is textbook plagiarism, scooping their result knowing that the research was part of the training data

All the ai labs are open about training on prompts. The question is if buckmaster had disabled that with the toggle openAI provides.

That does not make it ethical

Isnt the entire history of academic progress iterating on work that other academics shared with you? Obviously this situation is spicy but openAI cited their work no?

OpenAI trained on their private unpublished research notes effectively, while also trying to get one of the paper authors fired

The question is more whether OpenAI can be trusted to honor that toggle switch. Given that they hold all chats for 30 days "for safety and security".

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