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The accused Sebastian Bubeck has denied the allegations on Twitter[0], and various other OpenAI employees[1,2] seem to be mocking another Anthropic employee voicing support for Levent[3]? Things are getting messy.

[0] https://xcancel.com/SebastienBubeck/status/20972141224714323...

[1] https://xcancel.com/polynoamial/status/2097215233119211902

[2] https://xcancel.com/danintheory/status/2097214838003138603

[3] https://xcancel.com/_sholtodouglas/status/209721833169057800...

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Dan and Noam both posted exactly the same line "Seb is a really sweet guy with great intentions..."

From which I assume OpenAI PR wrote it for them. Which isn't surprising, but means it isn't worth taking seriously as them saying anything. It's official OpenAI PR.

No, they use that wording because they are mocking this tweet from an Anthropic employee: https://xcancel.com/_sholtodouglas/status/209721833169057800....

I don't know why.

That is even worse. Back to 5th grade I guess

Look at the President and the US government. This is society now.

Wow this is just bullying, it's insane that we are letting these people be in charge of the transition

So someone can make public accusations of theft against you and if you publicly reply denying it you’re the bully?

I would assume they are calling the snark from Noam Brown and Dan Roberts bullying, not the somewhat bland denial.

I read through those tweets, and can’t see the bullying everyone is referring to. Mind elaborating?

They are mocking Sholto's support of Levent. I thought Noam Borwn would be above this but i think the cutlure withitn OpenAI encourages it.

seems to me the Noam tweet was before the Sholto tweet?

2:47 am (eastern time for me) https://x.com/polynoamial/status/2097215233119211902

2:59 am https://x.com/_sholtodouglas/status/2097218331690578000/

Douglas was first: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49608972

Certainly a sign of the emotional immaturity and low empathy that's rampant in posters on internet forums like Twitter. Poor reflection on OpenAI.

the transition ... to domination by our new AI overlords?

I would imagine these folks are being treated like gods at their companies. And having access to all the money/fame. It is not surprising they see themselves above all

The elves left a long time ago, it’s difficult to see much virtue in what remains.

I assume this will make more sense in the morning, right now I’m just extremely confused. Noam never struck me as the type to be snarky like this.

i already have an extremely low view of openai and their staff, but this is lower than i thought they'd go

if I look at the timestamps, it appears Sholto is the one mocking Noams tweet... Noam posted first.

Doesn’t matter. People’s minds are already made up, and facts aren’t getting in the way.

Assuming that your mind is not already made up, and that facts aren't getting in the way, do see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49608972

Douglas' 6:59 AM UTC post is edited. He has a 6:22 AM UTC post that predates Brown's 6:47 AM UTC post: https://xcancel.com/_sholtodouglas/status/209720900556759874...

Also note the lower post ID in the URL.

I hope they mock Sholto. Dude is an absolute podcast grifter/booster.

Interesting that both said “more tomorrow”. If someone accused me of something I didn’t do I’d be pretty clear about it right away.

If I needed to get my story straight, well, it might take a little time and coordination…

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