https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1519735033950470144/photo/1?
the topics have different emphasis than in the US, but the principle remains. immigration, de-industrialization, green politics, erosion of trust based society
IMO they explain it well here:
Inside The Rise of Germany's New Far-Right
The AfD literally published a manifesto of new and notably more conservative policy goals in 2017.
They do not claim to have the political stance of Germany 25 years ago, they themselves say that they are something new (For example, point 1 is an adoption of Swiss-style direct democracy, which is a notable shift to the right).
I encourage you to think much more deeply than "I saw this meme and it resonated with me," because the same is true of the American Tight, despite Elon's claim (Regan, for example, was very famously against Tariffing Canada).
Since when did direct democracy became a right wing concept?
It's intended to make Parliament powerless (when you read the document, I'm sure you saw that part), so, I'd say it became a right wing concept when it was proposed by a far-right political party in 2017 to move Germany to the right.
You may be interested in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyranny_of_the_majority
For a historic example, you may be interested in: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_for_Grain
Maybe try a different example to make your point?
How about the grass is green logic? If the right wing parties started saying that grass is green and that’s the nature then anyone saying the same thing is right wing as well? Like how dumb are you? Don’t you have a brain to think than being brainwashed by left ideological nonsense?
Where's @dang when you need him?
I'm as smart/dumb as anyone else on here and I'm sorry this conversation turned into whatever this is.
My impression is that the overton window has gone further and further to the right so chacun voit midi à sa porte
Woke 1.0 was 'crazy' indeed, good that this can now be said. The successor will probably be just as crazy but in some different way. It most likely will be some throwback to classical marxist tropes instead of the intersectional mess which best describes 'Woke 1.0' because younger generations never experienced the reality of the Soviet bloc, never were taught the reality of life under communism in school and as such are easy targets for socialist propaganda, viz. the success of the DSA. This time it will surely work, people, real socialism has never been tried after all...
[1] https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/aug/15/aoc-wo...
we should call that hagbardisms
that too should we call hagbardisms
Call it what you want, everything needs to be turned into a meme after all. I call it 'observations' and go by those, not by narrative or attempts at memecasting.
Who is my favourite target by the way? As far as I can remember this is the first time I mentioned this politico on this - or any other - forum. Also, could you maybe say something about the actual subject here which is the grand-grand-grand-grandparent post stating that 'anyone who thinks "woke" is a valid counterpoint is not worth listening to'? You seem to be trying to do the same when it comes to what you're trying to call 'hagbardisms'. You haven't actually touched the original subject yet, what about it?
anyone who thinks "woke" is a valid counterargument is not worth listening to
Also it isn't me who refers to ${whatever} as the next generation of woke, it is implied by those who refer to the past madness as woke 1.0. Where there is a 1.0 there is soon to be a 2.0, or maybe a 1.1, who knows.